04-15-2010, 01:14 PM
Location: North Texas
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How many times has California had this on the ballot for public elections? Only to get it shot down!!!
04-15-2010, 01:16 PM
Location: Oakland, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
oscottscotto
Uh, we are skipping the preface of all of this. Why is it the government's role (federal or state) to tell an indivdual human what he or she can or cannot put into his or her own body?
Protect me as a consumer of goods, like food and drug regulation. Protect me with a military and/or police. Build roads, damns, infastructure. Provide safety-net services for the population at large (like SS, Medicare). Do all of this with my tax dollars that I put in, that is all good.
But do not tell me what I can or cannot do
with my own body . If what I do has the potential to directly physically harm someone else, such as driving drunk or high, then arrest me. But there is no reason in hell that I should be worried about being arrested for smoking (or in prohibition days, drinking) in my own house or in areas designated ok by the general public.
/rant over
Big Business to put people in prison for drug use.
04-15-2010, 01:29 PM
Location: Lake Arlington Heights, IL
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Alright! Instead of moving to Montana to become a Dental Floss tycoon, I can move to CA and become a bong billionaire.
04-15-2010, 02:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Beaconowner
One of the reasons the CA law enforcement groups are against this bill is because they fear that it will result in job loss. They don't believe that they will be re-directed to go after "real" criminals. They think that the still financially strapped communities they work for will lay them off and accept a smaller police force. I think they are likely correct in that assessment, but the answer for them must be retraining doing something productive, not continuing the drug war so they can draw a paycheck.
I don't think this is true. I guess I live in a high crime city so I don't think the police department arrests you for simply smoking or possessing weed. I'd assume the marijuana smokers you all seem to be, you are lawyers/doctors by day and smoke weed in your own home by night? (had to throw in some sarcasm
) What's the percentage of these people getting arrested? I would say nil. Now if you get popped selling a few pounds today yeah, you might go to the pen. but not if you simply have a dubee.
I hate when people say go after "real" criminals. Currently it's illegal to posess marijuana unless you have a medical card, is it not? Yes, I asked a question I already know the answer to again.
Maybe the police department has a different point of view and perspective on society as a whole because of what they deal with on a day to day basis. I think a police officer sees things differently than we all do especially someone who smokes marijuana for recreation. Maybe that's why they are against legalization. I'll ask a cop next time I get pulled over and will report it to you guys.
04-15-2010, 02:43 PM
Location: Oakland, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Think About It!
I don't think this is true. I guess I live in a high crime city so I don't think the police department arrests you for simply smoking or possessing weed. I'd assume the marijuana smokers you all seem to be, you are lawyers/doctors by day and smoke weed in your own home by night? (had to throw in some sarcasm
) What's the percentage of these people getting arrested? I would say nil. Now if you get popped selling a few pounds today yeah, you might go to the pen. but not if you simply have a dubee.
I hate when people say go after "real" criminals. Currently it's illegal to posess marijuana unless you have a medical card, is it not? Yes, I asked a question I already know the answer to again.
Maybe the police department has a different point of view and perspective on society as a whole because of what they deal with on a day to day basis. I think a police officer sees things differently than we all do especially someone who smokes marijuana for recreation. Maybe that's why they are against legalization. I'll ask a cop next time I get pulled over and will report it to you guys.
I think when people say "Real Criminals" they mean "Violent" Criminals, or those who commit white collar crime that can destroy a person, rather than Prostitutes, Johns, and Drug Users. It's really a waste of money to go after that group.
04-15-2010, 02:56 PM
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
cubssoxfan
Alright! Instead of moving to Montana to become a Dental Floss tycoon, I can move to CA and become a bong billionaire.
"Bong billionaire" probably isn't such a stretch, and I mean selling the "lifestyle accessories", not just the "weed".
While shopping a couple weeks ago in the nearby college town, I walked by a huge late-model Prevost motorhome, custom-painted in iridescent green, and virtually covered with stickers and advertising for companies selling various marijuana "paraphernalia". It was parked in front of a local "headshop", and when I inquired about it inside, come to find out it's owned by a company that was started by a local boy, who apparently has made a bunch of money inventing & marketing a popular "vaporizer"!
So obviously there's alot of gold in them thar' hills!
04-15-2010, 03:09 PM
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What will be the impact of MJ legalization?
04-15-2010, 03:27 PM
Location: North Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
cubssoxfan
Alright! Instead of moving to Montana to become a Dental Floss tycoon, I can move to CA and become a bong billionaire.
ha-ha-ha-ha LMAO
04-16-2010, 01:02 PM
Location: Malibu/Miami Beach
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Dont expect five million $$ worth of medical care for $50 a month!!
04-16-2010, 01:30 PM
Location: Minneapolis
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Seeing the benefits of this bill would only take as long as it would take the market to be set up and licensed. People regardless would be able to cultivate in their own homes right away or continue to do so and as we all know, there is already an unlicensed thriving market with plenty of supply to start out with.
Not surprised at all but a little dissapointed that people are still buying into the BS that people can't think for themselves if they choose to drink or smoke, enjoying alcohol or cannabis doesn't prevent anyone from knowing or figuring our what is going on around them politically. That is purely an argument on the discussion of the lack of will people have on an individual basis, to educate themselves on current issues; even if we lived in an age of total prohibition, people would still be willfully oblivious to the issues around them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by
impala666
Dont expect five million $$ worth of medical care for $50 a month!!
What the hell does that have to do with anything, an attempt to dilute the issue with absolute nonsense?
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Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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