Open the Playgrounds (restaurants, shops, safer)

[sav858]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

The study also found that although children younger than 17 were the least likely to die of COVID-19, they transmitted the virus at rates similar to the rest of the population, underscoring the idea that the disease doesn’t spare young people. One data point in particular holds implications for reopening schools: Children ages 5 to 17 passed the virus to 18% of close contacts their own age.

That's a pretty large age range especially when its been suggested than kids under 9 or 10 pass it a lot less often.

Also this wasn't US schoolchildren it appears correct?

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by sav858

That's a pretty large age range especially when its been suggested than kids under 9 or 10 pass it a lot less often.

Also this wasn't US schoolchildren it appears correct?

No, it wasn't. I can't figure out why we haven't done more studies about the virus and American children.

[CA4Now]

"I know the playgrounds have been, really for many, sort of not well understood, and [their closure] creates a lot of hardship again for families,” Los Angeles County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer acknowledged this week.

Ferrer said that before issuing the latest regulations, health officials “went back and forth for many days” about how to handle reports from local parks departments about crowding, children playing without masks and the difficulty of sanitizing playground equipment.

Angry parents won’t let officials slide over closed playgrounds, packed malls:
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ed-playgrounds

[sav858]

Originally Posted by CA4Now

"I know the playgrounds have been, really for many, sort of not well understood, and [their closure] creates a lot of hardship again for families,” Los Angeles County Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer acknowledged this week.

Ferrer said that before issuing the latest regulations, health officials “went back and forth for many days” about how to handle reports from local parks departments about crowding, children playing without masks and the difficulty of sanitizing playground equipment.

Angry parents won’t let officials slide over closed playgrounds, packed malls:
https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ed-playgrounds

They closed playgrounds again in LA? That's so stupid and nonsensical, I wonder if anywhere else in the country is this braindead and contradictory. Parents should just start cutting down the Caution and tape and kicking down any barriers, this state hates our children.

And what is it with those whole sanitization stuff still? Experts have already came out saying the chances of transmission along surfaces is very low.

[CA4Now]

Originally Posted by sav858

They closed playgrounds again in LA? That's so stupid and nonsensical, I wonder if anywhere else in the country is this braindead and contradictory. Parents should just start cutting down the Caution and tape and kicking down any barriers, this state hates our children.

And what is it with those whole sanitization stuff still? Experts have already came out saying the chances of transmission along surfaces is very low.

It does seem low. In fact, I doubt that anyone is getting this virus from touching inanimate objects. The only thing I can think of is that since a lot of children congregate close together on a park playground, some who may have runny noses, are not completely immunized, or are otherwise carrying something, are picking up viral shedding, then passing it along to the parent or caregiver who brings them home. Just a guess.

[wac_432]

If our governor can attend an indoor nighttime unmasked dinner with 10 random people from outside his household, my mask-compliant kids can play on an empty effing playground out in the sun.

[goodheathen]

Originally Posted by wac_432

If our governor can attend an indoor nighttime unmasked dinner with 10 random people from outside his household, my mask-compliant kids can play on an empty effing playground out in the sun.

How do the authorities know it will be sunny that day and for how long unless they make opening/closing decisions on short notice, not to mention public playgrounds are unmanned and not sanitized, and why would that be practical?

[wac_432]

Originally Posted by goodheathen

How do the authorities know it will be sunny that day and for how long unless they make opening/closing decisions on short notice, not to mention public playgrounds are unmanned and not sanitized, and why would that be practical?

Because we need authorities to ignore the science and tell us when to play.

The "science" being a broad consensus supported by numerous studies that restaurants (open), nail salons (open), retail and grocery stores (open) and hair salons (open) spread the virus while children on playgrounds (closed) do not.

[CA4Now]

The county has not publicly linked coronavirus outbreaks to playgrounds, but officials said they believe the closures were necessary to slow the spread. Playgrounds were closed earlier in the pandemic but were allowed to reopen in September to the cheers of parents.

Before issuing the latest regulations, health officials “went back and forth for many days” about how to handle reports from local parks departments about crowding, children playing without masks and the difficulty of sanitizing playground equipment, according to county Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ng-playgrounds

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by wac_432

Because we need authorities to ignore the science and tell us when to play.

The "science" being a broad consensus supported by numerous studies that restaurants (open), nail salons (open), retail and grocery stores (open) and hair salons (open) spread the virus while children on playgrounds (closed) do not.

It's just common sense, really.

Restaurants, retail and grocery along with hair salons and everything else operate in a finite air space of varying degrees. A park or playground does too but it's confines are literally the entire troposphere. Hmmm.... which is more risky? Gotta do some serious maths to figure it out.