Coronavirus (San Fernando: principal, calendar, live)

[sav858]

Originally Posted by Mike930

Yeah, I don’t get why it seems to be all or nothing. The lockdowns were supposed to keep the hospitals from being overwhelmed, not completely eliminate the virus.

You stop the lockdowns but keep the masks, do other things. Check temperatures before people go into a business. I’ve had it done to me several times, it’s fast, no big deal. But you don’t keep everything locked down, ease up and then lock it down again. The “dimmer switch” is idiotic.

We have a number of restaurants here that have said if they get locked down again, they won’t come back, so they refuse. I go to those restaurants as often as I can and I’ll continue to support them.

Newsom did a good job at the beginning, but he’s horrible now. He’s proven to be much, much worse than Trump. He’ll just keep adding new restrictions as long as he can. The “equity measure” is a freaking joke.

Agreed. Some people seem to want to keep moving the goal posts to the point to where they think we can and should eliminate all COVID spread in a country of 330 million.

[joosoon]

Originally Posted by Exitus Acta Probat

I do not know who stated that here, but it was not me, and I doubt anybody else who is a member of the scientific community stated that here.

Well, not that his background is in science, but Newsom has been saying forever that if only people would wear masks, this and that would be back to normal.

[looker009]

Originally Posted by sav858

How do you figure? They told us earlier in the summer much of the spread was from "social gatherings", not barbershops/salons, restaurants, etc... Bars I can see but you can limit capacity. I'm fine with mask mandates, which exist already, and reduced capacity. You're not going to eradicate COVID with any lockdown measures in a country like ours simply because of size/scale. Maybe its time to accept some risk and that its going to occur.

Every other Disney theme park in the world has reopened except ours. It made no sense that playgrounds remained closed as long as they did. CA is going too far with these restrictions. You don't need to throw open the door but ease up already.

I never see anyone indoors without a mask and businesses have been good kicking people out without them.

So you want to base how to handle coronavirus on THAILAND? A quasi authoritarian country? lol. Places like Japan and Hong Kong never had an official lockdown. Lockdowns aren't the only answer to reducing COVID spread. T

Go to Target, they will do nothing. Plenty of location of stores not enforcing it. I know for sure that USPS is not enforcing mask.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by looker009

So you want to take away all freedom and start arresting people? Do you understand how absurd that sounds? We do not live in socialist country, CDC recommendations do not mean anything, they just that recommendations. Also anyone that want to wear a mask is welcome to do it, no one is stopping them from doing that. At the same time the goal was to reduce transmission of Covid so as to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed. We are not eve close to hospitals being full and have much better medicine now to control this virus. What governor is doing is pushing socialism over business by controlling them to the max.

honest question for you. You claim to be a realtor, are really going to try to tell us that you don't wear a mask when you are driving clients around or showing houses?

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by looker009

Go to Target, they will do nothing. Plenty of location of stores not enforcing it. I know for sure that USPS is not enforcing mask.

USPS and Target both enforce mask wearing here.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by looker009

Government is releasing prisoners because of "covid" and you want to start arresting people that refuse to wear mask. Where exactly do you want to place them? You don't seem to understand how unrealistic that wish is. We are not Asian country, we do not do what government tells us to do just because, we will make our own decision on how to best protect our self and our family/friends.

I don't approve of releasing prisoners due to COVID. Please don't put words into my mouth.

[roadwarrior101]

Originally Posted by sav858

How do you figure? They told us earlier in the summer much of the spread was from "social gatherings", not barbershops/salons, restaurants, etc... Bars I can see but you can limit capacity. I'm fine with mask mandates, which exist already, and reduced capacity. You're not going to eradicate COVID with any lockdown measures in a country like ours simply because of size/scale. Maybe its time to accept some risk and that its going to occur.

Every other Disney theme park in the world has reopened except ours. It made no sense that playgrounds remained closed as long as they did. CA is going too far with these restrictions. You don't need to throw open the door but ease up already.

I never see anyone indoors without a mask and businesses have been good kicking people out without them.

So you want to base how to handle coronavirus on THAILAND? A quasi authoritarian country? lol. Places like Japan and Hong Kong never had an official lockdown. Lockdowns aren't the only answer to reducing COVID spread. T

Well, let's see. In Florida, the spread and death rates are much worse than CA, so I don't think how they're handling COVID is exactly something we should emulate.

In the Asian countries, its a mixed bag of lockdowns (in some regions), extensive contact tracing/isolation, but most importantly very high compliance rate for mask wearing. Its more accepted culturally over there. They've been through SARS and know what its like and are more willing to make this sacrifice. They also understand its for the benefit of their own health and the health of others. So yeah, if we did all of the things Asian countries are doing to control the spread, we could open up safely without a strict lockdown.

[2sleepy]

Originally Posted by joosoon

San Diego Unified is finally moving into what they've dubbed "phase one" reopening which is essentially in-person class time for select students. It's basically voluntary for the teachers and it's by invitation to the students. It maximizes choice on both ends of the equation, both for staff and for students/parents.

More importantly, most people realize that in order to get to phase two, this preliminary step has to be successful and it's that goal which is driving those open-ended policies above. It's a good way to start since nobody is being forced to do anything.

I agree, and that's the way it should happen but this idea that we can just 'reopen everything overnight' is absurd.

[looker009]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

USPS and Target both enforce mask wearing here.

Picture from USPS that i took as i knew someone would say something like that. He got service at USPS on 10/6/2020

[looker009]

Originally Posted by 2sleepy

honest question for you. You claim to be a realtor, are really going to try to tell us that you don't wear a mask when you are driving clients around or showing houses?

I absolutely wear a mask while with clients.