Newsom new law that bans private prisons (debt, pensions)

[volosong]

Originally Posted by Mr5150

Idea! Dungeons rather than prisons. We could save a ton of$$$

Nah. England had a good system with the Australia thing.

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by eureka1

If you're jealous of the prison guards, you should try to get on with Corrections. Warning: it's an awful job. That's why it pays relatively well.

That poster you're replying to is in his 70s, is retired, and owns several rental properties.

[DCMann2]

Private prisons are disgusting. Good riddance

[sean1the1]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

The reason is obvious, he is the unions puppet and does whatever they want. The cost per inmate in our prison is $85,00 while for a private prison is $31,000. The state union run prisons cost so much more because of fabulous pay for the union guards, benefits, and pensions. There is no hope for California.
LA Times Oct. 13

Why would you ever support something so idiotic, the goal is to keep people from going to prison. High costs should make us rethink the reasons for why we're sending people there in the first place, and learn from those inside how to keep them from going there. We invest $81 in an inmate, but don't consider how could we have invested much less in the upbringing of that child so they don't become inmate's in the first place. Just a little investment and welcoming of Americans to our ideal america is much more effective. The fact that prison is an industry is a sign of our very own failure nothing else. Next time you see an inmate do some investigating into their very own upbringing and ask yourself what you could've done to kelp them. Only then will you become cognizant of what it takes to fix this P.O.S. after the fact redundant criminal justice system.

[njbiodude]

Originally Posted by V8 Vega

I guess you guys don't mind paying $85,000 vs $31,000 per prisoner. I do.
Your paying more than that, you pay for these guards lavish pensions for 30 years.
Do you live in a brand new house in a nice neighborhood and have a new expensive car? Your paying for them to have that.

There's far more people being imprisoned when private prisons are ubiquitous though.

Many of the public prisons also have expensive but necessary things like job training programs that prevent released prisoners from going straight back to jail.

Then there's the money the private prisons pay local districts in a lobbying effort to get them to improson more people.

[SoCal25]

Private prisons were already on the way out and held less than 2% of inmates as of June. The bigger target is Federal immigration detention centers.


https://www.motherjones.com/crime-ju...te-prison-ban/

[5thgenSF]

your facts are incorrect. you also don't seem to know about all the money being scammed at the border. but then you obviously voted for the liar.

[bmw335xi]

Will he build more public prisons then?

[BB_210]

Originally Posted by bmw335xi

Will he build more public prisons then?

Na, just keep lowering the threshold for crime, while making gun ownership more restricted. Only in CA can illegal things be legal and legal things be illegal.

[2x3x29x41]

Private prisons are advocated by free-market fetishists who can't be bothered to check and see if their dogmatic insistence that for-profit businesses designed to enrich CEOs and stockholders are necessarily more cost-effective than public prisons overseen by officials who aren't making eight figures and who don't have to worry about diverting limited resources stockholders every quarter actually holds true.

If they could be pried away from their dogma long enough to scrutinize private prisons, they'd see that part of the business models is sending expensive-to-incarcerate prisoners (the more violent ones, the ones with special needs, etc.) back to state-run prisons, while holding onto the comparatively-inexpensive-to-incarcerate.

If they'd ever bother to scrutinize the sweetheart deals being served up by state governments, they'd see what happens in places like Arizona, where the state guaranteed payments for 100% capacity, so even when the private prisons had vacancies the state was paying for every single bed (and the private prisons were counting those empty beds as 'prisoners' - gee, is it any surprise that a non-existent prisoner who doesn't eat and never needs watching or laundering or health care is really cheap to house?).

If they were at all concerned with the actual product being offered by private prisons, they might end up being alarmed at the significantly higher recidivism rates for those housed in private prisons, and it might dawn on them that the private prison's interest lying solely in making money (compared to the state prison's interest in rehabilitation) is the cause of that.

But they don't.

Because they never question their dogma.

And because, at any rate, they just want to irresponsibly kick the financial can down the road.