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Old 07-25-2012, 12:50 PM
 
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Well, I think it's funny:

Stuffed Mountain Lion Scares Laguna Beach Woman Into 911 Call (VIDEO)
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Here&There
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Laguna Beach is a bubble within a bubble -- oh how I miss thee.
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Old 07-25-2012, 02:36 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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It's been sleeping for hours.
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Old 07-25-2012, 03:08 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Not sure why this is news, there are lots of stuffed cougars in Orange County.
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:34 PM
 
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The real ones will be there soon enough.

And to those who say the reason we see more and more predators (mountain lions, bears, coyotes, etc) in the urban areas is "because we took away their habitat" I don't see that at all.

What I see is exurbanization / fallowing. Allow me to explain. In the years prior to about 1985 (or whichever line on the sand you prefer) there was an extensive rural population and clear demarcation between areas under intense management (farms, ranches, timber lands) and wild lands.

As CA became more urbanized (and according to many, supposedly more urbane) the wildland boundary has become less distinct. We see more and more essentially urban people now living in the formerly heavily managed non urban areas. When they move in, a fallowing process ensues. Formerly managed forests and rangelands revert to a not-quite-wild but very minimally managed state. Predators are quite comfortable in any such zone and exploit accordingly. This has over time brought ranges right up against and now into actual suburban and urban areas.

To compound things, once predators become addicted to human refuse, a true "tragedy of the commons" ensues. A garbage addicted predator has early death as its fate. There is no recovery from such an addiction and an unfortunate incident will eventually occur.

To further compound things, the rolling non locking "3 cart" systems now pushed by the Greens are the icing in the garbage addiction cake.

It is sad.
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Old 07-26-2012, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Quimper Peninsula
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The real ones will be there soon enough.

And to those who say the reason we see more and more predators (mountain lions, bears, coyotes, etc) in the urban areas is "because we took away their habitat" I don't see that at all.

What I see is exurbanization / fallowing. Allow me to explain. In the years prior to about 1985 (or whichever line on the sand you prefer) there was an extensive rural population and clear demarcation between areas under intense management (farms, ranches, timber lands) and wild lands.

As CA became more urbanized (and according to many, supposedly more urbane) the wildland boundary has become less distinct. We see more and more essentially urban people now living in the formerly heavily managed non urban areas. When they move in, a fallowing process ensues. Formerly managed forests and rangelands revert to a not-quite-wild but very minimally managed state. Predators are quite comfortable in any such zone and exploit accordingly. This has over time brought ranges right up against and now into actual suburban and urban areas.

To compound things, once predators become addicted to human refuse, a true "tragedy of the commons" ensues. A garbage addicted predator has early death as its fate. There is no recovery from such an addiction and an unfortunate incident will eventually occur.

To further compound things, the rolling non locking "3 cart" systems now pushed by the Greens are the icing in the garbage addiction cake.

It is sad.
Interesting, I have to agree for the most part. Predators come in if the prey is there... Broken tracts of fallow land increase prey populations, which brings the predators in..

Yes feeding, anything but song birds is bad. Garbage is not good for animals to get into. I do not know about the 3 cart system so I can not comment.....
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Old 07-26-2012, 07:15 AM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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Not sure why this is news, there are lots of stuffed cougars in Orange County.
Yeah, some of these gals need to pay more attention to their weight. For a 40 something female on the prowl to weigh more than a big tom cougar is not the pathway to a successful hunt.
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