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[BostonBornMassMade]

Originally Posted by Space_League

Minneapolis has a decent history of radical anarchist movements going back for decades. Not on the same level as places like Portland/ Berkley, CA but it was more of a low key element to the city but still present.

They held the 2nd haymarket remembered festival in 1987 in Minneapolis (first was in Chicago)

Same year the Revolutionary Anarchist Bowling League (RABL) was founded in Minneapolis.

80s era photo of the bookstore where they were founded. believe the name comes from an incident where a bowling ball was thrown through the window of an army recruitment center



Anarchist zines were around in Minneapolis since the 70s



The Baldies, which started I believe as a non politically-oriented skinhead gang in Minneapolis way back in the 1950s eventually to transition into an anti-racism action group, that still operated somewhat like a gang but has a progressive agenda. My understanding is they basically fought other skinheads who they considered racist throughout the 80s and spread to be a national movement

Is this unique?

Philadelphia MOVE
New Haven Black Panther Party
Boston Combahee River Collective and the Mandela secession movement
Many movement in NYC/DC

Don’t most major cities have radical groups in their history?

[WestieWhitie]

Can't solve them murders when no one ain't seen sh*t, homie!

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

Remember there was Philando Castile and then there have been a few other high profile incidents as well. 35 people, 23 black killed by MOD from 2000-2021. Minneapolis is also noted for being like Milwaukee Pittsburgh and Boston in that they have large sections of black inner city and huge economic disparities in Heavily white metros. It’s my observation that places like that have to overcompensate to neutralize those (valid) complaints.

Remember, it’s Mass. where the SJC ruled black men can legally flee the police with no legal repercussions due to fear of their life. It is also Boston that (as far as we know) tops all cities in % of unsolved non fatal shootings. I don’t think this is a coincidence.

[bostongymjunkie]

Originally Posted by timberline742

Ohhh, the narratives of the time of those movements viewed them very much as overprivelged elitist busybodies with too much time and not enough sense.

History looks at them differently. As it always does.

Unlike you, I'm not comparing them based on the nuances of how they may have been viewed but to the reality and substance of what they represent. Postmodernism and "Woke-ism" in many ways simply reinvents the very injustices people in history have fought to eradicate. They aren't comparable regardless of the comparisons of how they were, or were not, viewed. The goals of the people you cite involved moving beyond identity, postmodernists bring us back.

[Guineas]

Originally Posted by bostongymjunkie

Postmodernism and "Woke-ism" in many ways simply reinvents the very injustices people in history have fought to eradicate. They aren't comparable regardless of the comparisons of how they were, or were not, viewed. The goals of the people you cite involved moving beyond identity, postmodernists bring us back.

I agree. Take an example of standardized testing. It was considered a pathway for people with limited means and without the network for good recommendations to distinguish themselves on their own merits. Now it's somehow racist. What are the alternatives? More subjective evaluations, letters and all the money you can buy for extracurriculars. Standardized testing lifted me from a failing school with limited course selections and constant bullying. My parents had no money for tutoring and no money for extracurriculars, but my dad did buy me an SAT prep book for $15.

If a test is racist or inequitable, the solution is to improve on the test and also make opportunities to prepare for the test more equitable. The solution is not to get rid of it completely and replace it with more subjectivity and more resume padding. Same with police defunding.

Progressivism is a misnomer.

[Space_League]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

Is this unique?

Philadelphia MOVE
New Haven Black Panther Party
Boston Combahee River Collective and the Mandela secession movement
Many movement in NYC/DC

Don’t most major cities have radical groups in their history?

I'm not sure if it's above average or average compared to other cities. I don't know the details overall that well that was just based on what I remember from watching some interviews about the history of anarchism in the US a couple years ago and being surprised how much Minneapolis came up.

[Space_League]

Originally Posted by timberline742

Ohhh, the narratives of the time of those movements viewed them very much as overprivelged elitist busybodies with too much time and not enough sense.

History looks at them differently. As it always does.

That's the benefit of history is we get to look back and see where political/cultural/social movements were justified and righteous. That doesn't make change inherantly good in any given situation, nor is it to say that nothing needs to be changed in modern society.

Conservative ideals have played just as important a role as progressive through history and to this day. We can't just write off either one and miss its value

[Lampert]

Originally Posted by BostonBornMassMade

Ultimately no one really, maybe a few moderate to conservative blacks and Latinos? Still, the least most black Latino neighborhoods were 70-75% Wu on average. Seems she made minimal inroads tbh. From what I heard in my social circles and what I saw on FB….minorities legit didn’t know who she was and she’d never been around until very recently so it felt forced and transactional. More of her base came out and she got some black men who have first hand experience with crime. And socially conservative immigrants/1st Gen people.

I agree. A big chuck of the extra votes she received are people that didn't vote the first time, the ones that flipped are likely few people here and there but not a real trend.

[WestieWhitie]

https://twitter.com/LiveBoston617/st...36282749087744 - wonder what our defundie in chief has to say about this…

[Mayei]

Originally Posted by WestieWhitie

https://twitter.com/LiveBoston617/st...36282749087744 - wonder what our defundie in chief has to say about this…

That's awful. Also, I hope Wu considers selecting Janey's reported pick for Commissioner, Nora Baston. Sure BPD isn't perfect, but Boston has done great things with community policing and she has been very involved with that.

[Lampert]

Originally Posted by WestieWhitie

https://twitter.com/LiveBoston617/st...36282749087744 - wonder what our defundie in chief has to say about this…

I understand you have your narrative to push but this has nothing to do with a mayor that was just elected a few days ago.
What about using the proper thread to discuss crime in Boston?