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Old 08-13-2011, 08:57 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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Well, in my defense, it was as I had assumed all along. You just make **** up
Never. Kind of like when you're watching a game and see a bunch of groundouts...you can safely say that there were alot of outs by contact. The eyes don't lie.
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Old 08-13-2011, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Never. Kind of like when you're watching a game and see a bunch of groundouts...you can safely say that there were alot of outs by contact. The eyes don't lie.
To safely say that you'd have to actually know the average rate of groundouts and compare your observed rate of groundouts to that.
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Old 08-14-2011, 12:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island,New York
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To safely say that you'd have to actually know the average rate of groundouts and compare your observed rate of groundouts to that.
No. To safely say that you'd have to watch a pitcher or player here and there and take a mental note. It's not difficult when I watch a start by CC and watch him strike out a bunch of guys and give up no runs and then watch him give up 5 home runs.
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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No. To safely say that you'd have to watch a pitcher or player here and there and take a mental note.
That's not actually correct, but whatever

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It's not difficult when I watch a start by CC and watch him strike out a bunch of guys and give up no runs and then watch him give up 5 home runs.
That's not actually correct, but whatever
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Old 08-22-2011, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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Comparing Active Pitchers to the .300 BABIP Standard - Beyond the Box Score

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Imagine an alternate universe in which every pitcher allows exactly a .300 batting average on balls in play (BABIP). Then compare that universe to this one. Which pitchers have gained the most from existing in our universe rather than this other, more communistic universe?

I found 7 active pitchers who had allowed at least 100 fewer hits over the course of their careers compared to the .300 BABIP standard:
PITCHER LD%,GB%,FB%
Wakefield 17, 40, 45
Barry Zito 20, 38, 42
Tim Hudson 18, 59, 23
Ted Lilly 20, 34, 46
Mo Rivera 17, 53, 30
Santana 20, 38, 43
Matt Cain 19, 37, 44

Most of the pitchers who sustain low BABIPs are pitchers who induce a high number of fly balls. Only Rivera and Hudson get more ground balls than fly balls.

The article mentions that the two pitchers who have given up the most more hits than expected are Livan Hernandez and Zack Duke
Hernandez 22, 42, 36
Zack Duke 21, 49, 31

The pattern holds (the high line drive rates don't help either)
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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What, no Sabathia? He's just as good as Verlander.


[/Yankee hating]
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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[/Yankee hating]
Tee hee hee
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