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Cheaper cars this may be a problem, but more expensive ones now extend into the upper roof of the car. When you grab the door handle, the window comes down slightly to let you open the door, when you close it, it moves back up about half an inch.
Not sure who started that, but I know Mercedes has had it since the early 90's.
our '11 mustang convert does this, actually a nice idea as long as passengers don't push the door open too quickly lol. This is the first "frameless" car we've had that did that with the windows, our '05 S2000 did not.
My car does this too but I assumed it was to provide a better seal around the window.
It's for that reason as well as added security. High end sports cars that are designed to hit close to 200+ mph, it's impossible to pop the window out of the upper seal, it's pushed up there too far, you'll just break the glass first.
Any Corvette owners, did GM fix this with the C6? I know on the C5 the windows would pop out of the top seal around 130 mph.
I had two cars, both 1970s Pontiacs, with frameless windows. The gasket (or whatever it's called) was a pain, it had to be constantly treated with silicon to keep it from sticking to the window.
Having said that, I'd take either of those cars back today just to have.
Thanks for the laugh! I really needed that today. The doors on that 71 Monaco were about half the size of yer ZX. They were HUGE as was the glass. Park on an incline to the side of the car and you weren't getting out. The doors were heavy, heavy, heavy. As you can see from the pic the doors went from the kick panel to just passed the front of the rear seat cushion. Easy even for a big guy to get in and out of the back.
Thanks for the laugh! I really needed that today. The doors on that 71 Monaco were about half the size of yer ZX. They were HUGE as was the glass. Park on an incline to the side of the car and you weren't getting out. The doors were heavy, heavy, heavy. As you can see from the pic the doors went from the kick panel to just passed the front of the rear seat cushion. Easy even for a big guy to get in and out of the back.
Hah, larger for sure. Sharp looking car though! Either way, I'm willing to put money on the fact that if a car of this size was designed today it would withstand the force of a semi driving by without issue.
With frameless doors you have some idiots that like to push the door closed using the window. I have to tell people closing the door on my Firebird "don't push the window".
The only feature of my '97 Outback and my '02 Outback that I did not like was those frameless windows.
Luckily, my door windows never got out of alignment, but when idiot passengers decide to push on the windows while shutting your door, it is possible for them to put the window out of alignment.
My 2011 Outback has, "conventional", framed windows, so I was REALLY glad when Subaru eliminated this questionable design feature as of 2010.
I've tried but am unable to translate this into something I understand.
Hahahaa sorry, what I meant was that vehicles with frameless doors actually are quieter (less wind noise & resistance) as the windows are sealed better when they're closed.
Hahahaa sorry, what I meant was that vehicles with frameless doors actually are quieter (less wind noise & resistance) as the windows are sealed better when they're closed.
Not necessarily true. Window edge in a channel sealed on both sides protected from the wind as opposed to a window edge resting on a gasket with wind blowing over the outer edge surface. Designed correctly wind resistance with full frame is negligible.
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