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Nice response Ozgal. I think its funny some people in Oz think racism is prevalent in the US and quite a few in the US think the same about Oz. Reality is its no worse or better in either country and the real answer is it depends where you are (well stated by Trimac). Oz isn't Nirvana, but then again, neither is the US (unless of course, you're Jacqs who can't wait to escape convictland).
I know.... this is not some social utopia.
We have our own unique issues, just as US has.
On the whole though, it's a great place to live - I mean people are queing up to get in, right?!
As an Asian Australian your not likely to stand out as an Asian. There is a lot more separateness in the US where people feel like they need to separate themselves. As a yank they are going to make fun of you more as a yank than an Asian. You will find that in the workplace there is not so much of an issue of you being Asian and there is no need to force your diversity down everyone elses throat.
If your going to start a business things are a little more conservative in Australia so if your looking for equity and stuff its a little harder to come by. The legal protections are still there though.
If you make an effort to fit in no one is going to single you out (unless you really head out to the equivalent of Alabama).
You seem to be a bit ignorant. The US isn't more "separate" in regards to Asians. Self-segregation is more of a white vs black matter, and a lot of it has to do with socioeconomic differences.
Also, you can't really make fun of an Asian for being a "yank" since Asian Americans don't have the same flaws as white americans. For example, asian americans are actually smarter, less obese, and more cultured than the average white australian, so how can you make fun of someone who is superior to you
I don't think you'll have much of an issue. Australia hasn't seen wide-spread anti-east Asian racism since the glory days of Pauline Hanson. That said, we're like America in that you may see pockets of it if you're unfortunate enough. Even then, you'd probably slip under the radar being Eurasian. To be honest, I think you'd have a better chance of experiencing anti-Americanism.
Obviously not always the case, but as a generalization, it's awful.
Anti-Americanism is mainly directed towards white Americans, especially ones who are conservative and/or religious. Asian Americans don't fall under such sentiments as they do not contribute to any of the US's problems, and are thus given much more respect when they travel abroad.
As long as you say hello to them and smile at them and talk to them you will be respected. Just to let you in on a secret, most working class Aussies do not really like Americans. They think you are loud mouth and over the top, self centred and obnoxious. So tell them you are a Canadian for your own safety.
Um are working class aussies really that stupid? first of all, people who are anti-american only feel that way about white americans. Asian Americans are seen in a more positive light as they don't fall under any of the "ugly american" stereotypes. In fact, asian americans are better than white aussies at just about everything (smarter, less obese, longer life expectancy, more cultured and multilingual, etc)
Nobody cares what university you went to. In fact, making yourself stand out by bragging about what one you attended is absolutely the worst thing. It is considered rude and denigrating to your next worker who studied and worked and went to some other uni. So smile and say you've got the quals and leave it at that.
Workplace culture is very different. Bear in mind some facts:-
*we have paid annual leave. You're entitled to it, paid for it and take it at a time of your choosing.
*we have guaranteed minimum sick leave, and you take it....when you are sick. Obviously.
*we have proper maternity leave, partly-paid
*we have universal and (if you are sensible) quite cheap healthcare.
*we cannot fire anyone for other than a very serious reason, and that is subject to challenge in the courts.
*harassment and equality laws are very strict.
As a result an Australian employee treats his superiors differently as he doesn't need their pleasure. If he is doing his job, then he can't be let go unless the company downsizes or goes broke. That employee also has adequate leave time and takes it, so isn't quite so motivated by a big holiday or summer season as his American friends might be.
What I am getting at is the attitude is different because the employees' footings are much more secure.
As for starting a business, you will need a good solicitor, a very good accountant and remember that everything needs a permit. Everything.
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Originally Posted by Davidmacintosh
Okay Thanks,
So the upshot is that an Asian American (especially a Eurasian) is unlikely to experience the prejudice in Australia that typical Asian immigrants from China experience, since I will be viewed more as an American.
In terms of the business culture of Australia, I will state some specific things that I was wondering:
A. How important is it to have gone to an Ivy League school or its Australian equivalent to get ahead in business? It seems that here in New York City as well as a few other places, there is a system within the business world almost as rigid as Apartheid or caste system, where you certain doors are glued shut if you didn't go to an Ivy school no matter how bright and talented you are. There is little tolerance here in New York for late bloomers. If you didn't get into the right school at age 18 and don't have your own condo at 30, you are viewed as dead.
2. How is the workplace culture different from the workplace culture of the USA?
3. Are there any advantages to starting a business in Australia.
You seem to be a bit ignorant. The US isn't more "separate" in regards to Asians. Self-segregation is more of a white vs black matter, and a lot of it has to do with socioeconomic differences.
Also, you can't really make fun of an Asian for being a "yank" since Asian Americans don't have the same flaws as white americans. For example, asian americans are actually smarter, less obese, and more cultured than the average white australian, so how can you make fun of someone who is superior to you
Why the reason is really simple .
It is SPORTS and Australia is really obsessed in that regard. The outdoors and physical activities are what define living in that country.
Now some might say Asians or Asian Americans are anathema to Australians given how studying and exams play a greater role in Asian culture.
So in effect being geeky and bookish and in many cases library bound does not bode well in the land downunder.
Also, I have noticed how some really attractive Asian American or Asian Australian girls are passed up on by many Australian guys. There is a slight taboo to marrying Asian for many White guys in that land.
Australia is coming along but still 10-20 years behind Europe and USA in many respects.
It is SPORTS and Australia is really obsessed in that regard. The outdoors and physical activities are what define living in that country.
Now some might say Asians or Asian Americans are anathema to Australians given how studying and exams play a greater role in Asian culture.
So in effect being geeky and bookish and in many cases library bound does not bode well in the land downunder.
Also, I have noticed how some really attractive Asian American or Asian Australian girls are passed up on by many Australian guys. There is a slight taboo to marrying Asian for many White guys in that land.
Australia is coming along but still 10-20 years behind Europe and USA in many respects.
What information do you have that says Asian Girls are not interested in Australian Guys?
It's a massive decision for an Asian immigrant to marry an Australia Guy. The first time my wife told her mother in Seoul we were getting married , her mother slammed down the phone and refused to speak to my wife for a week, It nearly ended our relationship.
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