10-24-2011, 05:02 PM
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Hello all,
We are a family from the Bay Area (CA) looking for relocating to Austin. What is important to us is #1 schools #2 short commute (15-30min). We get none of these in CA
I am in the software field and my job is in the NW corridor but it won't be my last job thus short commute doesn't mean to that company but more generally to where the majority of the high tech companies are.
So far from trolling different forums, we know Eanes has the best schools, close to downtown where the fun is, but it's the most pricey area and mostly older homes.
We saw mixed opinion on most other areas except Lake Travis, and Steiner Ranch/River Place where people seems very satisfied w/ schools and home prices are quite lower than Eanes. The commute seems challenging though as every car feeds into 620N.
My oldest child just started elementary but we are looking for area w/ exemplary elementary, middle, and high school to be on the safe side. We don't like moving every few years.
Price range would be ~400k and would compromise on the house size and feature to meet #1 and #2 criteria.
It would be great of you could comment on school quality of the above areas and how they compare against Eanes, or suggest any other areas we could look into. Also would love to hear your commute experience from the mentioned areas.
I've been using this report http://independencetitle.com/Files/CrossReference/1A/AustinSchools.pdf (broken link)
which contains good amount of details and seems recent, but the numbers don't seem to accurate. For example I called Leander ISD and they said class size is 20-22 not 14 as stated. But just wanted to share it in case other reader find it useful.
Thanks in advance
10-24-2011, 08:57 PM
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First of all, help us out with your job location. When you say "NW Corridor", are you speaking of NW Hills, Arboretum, or elsewhere? A few more specifics regarding your job location would be helpful since you are hoping for a 15-20 minute commute.
Also, I'm sure several posters will quickly tell you that "exemplary" vs. non-exemplary isn't always the best criteria to evaluate a good school vs. a not-so-good one. There are many "recognized" (or "acceptable") schools that have some population subsets that really struggle, bringing the whole school's numbers down, but the truth is many kids are getting a solid education at those schools. It will be hard for you to find any location in AISD that has "exemplary" rated schools for all 3 (elementary/middle/high school), and if you are using that as criteria, it will be tough. Yes, Eanes has that, but a $400K housing budget is tricky in Eanes (it's possible, but your options are very limited).
For an area with good schools that is less pricey than Eanes, you may also want to consider Northwest Hills, or sections near Spicewood Springs that feed into Laurel Canyon elementary (on up to Westwood High). Top notch schools, perhaps the trade-off being that Westwood can be very stressful (as can Westlake); of course, that partly depends on your kid.
So first, tell us a little more about where exactly you plan to commute to, and then we can be of more help.
10-25-2011, 09:45 AM
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Thanks for your reply Blakely. The job I am transfering to is a couple of blocks from the intersection McNeil Dr and W Palmer Ln. But I am looking for an area that is generally centrally located respectively to where the majority of high tech companies are to keep commute reasonable should I need to change job in the future.
Thanks for the suggestion on Spicewood Springs but I couldn't find Laurel Canyon ES. I did find Laurel Mountain and Canyon Creek ES in RRISD that are exemplary. That area would be awesome for my current commute.
I agree that $400 isn't much in Eanes but I believe it's a good range for elsewhere. I hoping to land in a area w/ schools that are close to the best that Austin has to offer. The main reason we are moving from CA to Austin is to have better education for our children.
From our experience, schools having a subset of struggling student tend to slow down the pace to ensure everyone is included. That is how it is in CA in most case. But some charter schools do have special sessions for struggling kids to bring them at par w/ the rest of the class. With the budget cuts, it is harder to hire those teacher assistants though.
Many thanks
10-25-2011, 10:06 AM
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OP - You probably mean McNeil and W Parmer, right?
I'm not sure it is really easy to say where "most" software or tech companies are located. A number of these kinds of companies are located somewhere near 360 (Capitol of Texas highway), but they can be all over. Some are even downtown.
If you want to make a bet where you might work in the future, then I would bet on 360. But that could mean you live in Eanes ISD, Round Rock ISD, Leander ISD, Austin ISD, or even Lake Travis ISD.
For example you could buy in Lakepointe on Bee Caves Rd. Lake Travis ISD. I think it doable for $400K. You would be within a 30 minute commute to a job on 360. Or live in Northwest Hills, zoned to Westwood high school, and still within a 30 minute commute. Lakepointe to your current job though might a bit over 30 minutes depending on time of day.
$400K is a good price point though that should give you some choices.
10-25-2011, 11:17 AM
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I would look at Avery Ranch, just North on Parmer. You have your choice of two districts depending on where in the development you want to look(Leander or Round Rock). Your commute will be less that 10 minutes and the schools are good. We do live in AR for the exact reasons you mentioned. We relocated from Washington state last year and a short commute for dad was our first priority. Check out zillow or any real estate site for zip code 78717 and you will find plenty of inventory.
10-25-2011, 01:14 PM
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Thanks for the suggestion on Spicewood Springs but I couldn't find Laurel Canyon ES. I did find Laurel Mountain and Canyon Creek ES in RRISD that are exemplary. That area would be awesome for my current commute.
Yes, I meant Laurel Mountain (sorry!)...the progression would be Laurel Mountain/Canyon Vista/Westwood....all very strong schools. I think you could live in that area and have a good commute to a lot of tech companies.
10-25-2011, 02:10 PM
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If you want to make a bet where you might work in the future, then I would bet on 360. But that could mean you live in Eanes ISD, Round Rock ISD, Leander ISD, Austin ISD, or even Lake Travis ISD.
looking at 360 google maps, I would have thought it traverses mostly residential areas (eanes for most part). I wasn't aware tech companies are also there. That is easy to commute to from Steiner Ranch.
Thank you for the tip
10-25-2011, 02:23 PM
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Yes, I meant Laurel Mountain (sorry!)...the progression would be Laurel Mountain/Canyon Vista/Westwood....all very strong schools. I think you could live in that area and have a good commute to a lot of tech companies.
Does rezoning happen in Austin? In CA, from year to year, they can reassign a house to a neighboring school. There is some risk if a house is sandwiched between 2 schools w/ different quality. Thus here, we have to find an area w/ homogeneous and good school quality.
This happened to me. We bought our house 8 years ago and it was mapped to the best of the 4 elementary schools in our vicinity. 2 years ago, we got reassigned to a school that is significantly worse. I wish my kid were old enough to attend school 2 years ago which they would have allow us to stay even after rezoning.
Thanks
10-25-2011, 03:58 PM
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looking at 360 google maps, I would have thought it traverses mostly residential areas (eanes for most part). I wasn't aware tech companies are also there. That is easy to commute to from Steiner Ranch.
Thank you for the tip
There are many "tech" companies, especially software, either on 360 or near it. Tivoli, BMC, Troux, Solar Winds, Bazaar Voice, and a number of smaller companies.....
10-25-2011, 05:29 PM
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Does rezoning happen in Austin? In CA, from year to year, they can reassign a house to a neighboring school. There is some risk if a house is sandwiched between 2 schools w/ different quality. Thus here, we have to find an area w/ homogeneous and good school quality.
This happened to me. We bought our house 8 years ago and it was mapped to the best of the 4 elementary schools in our vicinity. 2 years ago, we got reassigned to a school that is significantly worse. I wish my kid were old enough to attend school 2 years ago which they would have allow us to stay even after rezoning.
Thanks
It doesn't happen in the same way it does in California (at least,from my limited experience, I don't see the same rezoning things happening).
What I have seen happen is redistricting within the same school district, mostly for the purpose of evening out attendance so each school is getting an appropriate load. This happened in Eanes a few years ago. Bridge Point's enrollment was getting too high (lots of new homes had been built in the Bridge Point zone, plus lots of young families moving in), while attendance at Eanes Elementary had been declining, in part due to aging in some of the Eanes Elem households. So some of the homes that were zoned to Bridge Point got redistricted to Eanes Elementary and Barton Creek Elementary.
In that example, all of the schools were in Eanes ISD and were rated exemplary with very similar curricula throughout, so it wasn't a big deal (well, to some that don't like change it was
).
What I don't see happening (and someone may correct me, because I'm no expert on this) is housing getting rezoned from one school district to another. Usually you are safe in knowing that your kids can/will attend the school to which your house is zoned. So if you buy a house in a district you like, you should be fine.
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People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)