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Old 03-30-2010, 12:01 PM
 
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I think that Dallas and Houston will replace Atlanta as the new black mecca, if Atlanta loses its "title." These two cities are popular alternatives for a lot of blacks. It will be good to see Dallas, Houston, Atlanta, and DC compete for the black population in the future.
40 Metros in this county and the black people should only live in 4? What about the other 36 Cities?
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:37 PM
 
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Well that is one of the weakest rebuttals I have seen on here. Instead of just putting smiley faces below responses you agree with, you should at least try to engage in the debate. If you can't come up with a counterargument, you might as well not respond at all.

Speaking of dreams, I am sure the scenario I described above (which is currently taking place before our eyes) is one that must give you nightmares, if not preventing you from sleeping altogether. Blacks having to share Atlanta with other minority groups?!?!? Hispanics growing to become the largest minority group in Atlanta?!?!? Oh, the horror!!!
STRAW MAN!

Straw man

Listen! Atlanta becoming more Diverse is GREAT it adding not subtracting! If ATLANTA was to have all white mayors for next 50 year Atlanta would still be nick name the black mecca why because Metro Atlanta has the 2nd largest black population in the US. total population goes 1st New York
2nd Los Angeles 3rd Chicago….. 9th Atlanta. In black population it goes 1st New York literally 2nd Atlanta 3rd Chicago. It's the concentration their not percentages and I told this before.

Again “key word some” conservative whites believe blacks are evil, have a grudges and hate them so if a city is associated with a large black population they would get offended, while many other cities are known for other ethnic populations they would not care. Yes because a double standard if Miami is know for Latin culture they understand that’s just one aspect of the Miami but if Atlanta is known for African American culture then all of the sudden that the only aspect of the city WTF and the city is not welcoming.

So everyone pay Attention for straw mans, when posters tried to argue “black Meeca” as percentages and dominance in Metro Atlanta instead of understanding it's a aspect of the diversity in Metro Atlanta that's greater than others Metros Area in the same aspect. pay Attention it‘s a complete straw man.
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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Yes because a double standard if Miami is know for Latin culture they understand that’s just one aspect of the Miami but if Atlanta is known for African American culture then all of the sudden that the only aspect of the city WTF and the city is not welcoming.
I know plenty of people that seem to think that Miami is "All Latin" and nothing else, and have a big problem with it. And there are many that have this perception that if you don't speak Spanish, you won't be welcome down there. Like the ignorant stereotypes about Atlanta, there is a lot of falsehood and misinformation about Miami.

There are many wonderful things about Atlanta, and I hope that people of all races that move down here can see that.

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Old 03-30-2010, 12:41 PM
 
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40 Metros in this county and the black people should only live in 4? What about the other 36 Cities?
Blacks live in all metros dude.
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:48 PM
 
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STRAW MAN!

Straw man

Listen! Atlanta becoming more Diverse is GREAT it adding not subtracting! If ATLANTA was to have all white mayors for next 50 year Atlanta would still be nick name the black mecca why because Metro Atlanta has the 2nd largest black population in the US. total population goes 1st New York
2nd Los Angeles 3rd Chicago….. 9th Atlanta. In black population it goes 1st New York literally 2nd Atlanta 3rd Chicago. It's the concentration their not percentages and I told this before.

Again “key word some” conservative whites believe blacks are evil, have a grudges and hate them so if a city is associated with a large black population they would get offended, while many other cities are known for other ethnic populations they would not care. Yes because a double standard if Miami is know for Latin culture they understand that’s just one aspect of the Miami but if Atlanta is known for African American culture then all of the sudden that the only aspect of the city WTF and the city is not welcoming.

So everyone pay Attention for straw mans, when posters tried to argue “black Meeca” as percentages and dominance in Metro Atlanta instead of understanding it's a aspect of the diversity in Metro Atlanta that's greater than others Metros Area in the same aspect. pay Attention it‘s a complete straw man.
I like this post.
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Old 03-30-2010, 02:07 PM
 
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STRAW MAN!

Straw man

Listen! Atlanta becoming more Diverse is GREAT it adding not subtracting! If ATLANTA was to have all white mayors for next 50 year Atlanta would still be nick name the black mecca why because Metro Atlanta has the 2nd largest black population in the US. total population goes 1st New York
2nd Los Angeles 3rd Chicago….. 9th Atlanta. In black population it goes 1st New York literally 2nd Atlanta 3rd Chicago. It's the concentration their not percentages and I told this before.

Again “key word some” conservative whites believe blacks are evil, have a grudges and hate them so if a city is associated with a large black population they would get offended, while many other cities are known for other ethnic populations they would not care. Yes because a double standard if Miami is know for Latin culture they understand that’s just one aspect of the Miami but if Atlanta is known for African American culture then all of the sudden that the only aspect of the city WTF and the city is not welcoming.

So everyone pay Attention for straw mans, when posters tried to argue “black Meeca” as percentages and dominance in Metro Atlanta instead of understanding it's a aspect of the diversity in Metro Atlanta that's greater than others Metros Area in the same aspect. pay Attention it‘s a complete straw man.
Congrats, it is very impressive that you can make an outlandish claim then try to back it up by simply posting a Wikipedia link. It really complements your excellent spelling and grammar.

What defines a black mecca? Is there some outside reference that you are using? Who decided that Atlanta was a black mecca? When did this happen? What criteria was used? Is there some institution that awarded Atlanta the title of black mecca? Was there an official designation? Is it based on population or percentage, or cultural amenities, or history, or location?

There is no objective answer to any of these questions. People's definition of what makes Atlanta a "black mecca", or if it even is one, is based purely on opinion. One factor that has a great deal of influence on someone's opinion is perception. Perceptions are subject to change over time, which explains why contemporary Chicago is no longer automatically associated with the Mafia.

But what are we really talking about here? An outdated title that was used to associate the city with a single racial group, or an underlying desire by some people for Atlanta to stay "theirs"?

Nothing stays the same. Atlanta has constantly been redefining itself, both in perception and reality. People that think Atlanta will be known for any specific aspect for the rest of time are delusional.
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Old 03-30-2010, 10:23 PM
 
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Congrats, it is very impressive that you can make an outlandish claim then try to back it up by simply posting a Wikipedia link. It really complements your excellent spelling and grammar.
Invalid! wikipedia or not. Are you aruging there's no such thing as a straw man now? I post these links so anyone can get a quick understanding of how fallacious the comment you make are. People are free to search up more about fallacies if they want, that's great. It does change the fact you comments are fallacious.
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What defines a black mecca? Is there some outside reference that you are using? Who decided that Atlanta was a black mecca? When did this happen? What criteria was used? Is there some institution that awarded Atlanta the title of black mecca? Was there an official designation? Is it based on population or percentage, or cultural amenities, or history, or location?
it's a nick name not a Title. but 4 of them you nailed, cultural amenities, history, and location is the reason for the population, it goes together.

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There is no objective answer to any of these questions. People's definition of what makes Atlanta a "black mecca", or if it even is one, is based purely on opinion. One factor that has a great deal of influence on someone's opinion is perception. Perceptions are subject to change over time, which explains why contemporary Chicago is no longer automatically associated with the Mafia.

But what are we really talking about here? An outdated title that was used to associate the city with a single racial group, or an underlying desire by some people for Atlanta to stay "theirs"?
I said it's a aspect of the diversity. It's black Atlantans vs black Houstonians and etc not Black Atlantans vs white Atlantans. First you want "black meeca" to be the negative thing, then 2nd your arguing against your own negative "as you say" perception of what it means. Do you realize you going that?

1. Atlanta is a transportation hub a well many other things such as a major media and educational center and etc. but if some one was in the logistic industry there going see Atlanta as the transportation hub as it relate to them. This doesn’t mean Atlanta is dominate by the logistic industry, and Atlanta is not a major media, educational center and etc. it mean Atlanta is over charlotte in logistics.

2. You can flip that, If someone was in the news industry Atlanta is a major media center as it relate to them this doesn’t mean Atlanta is dominate by the New industry or broadcasting. It means Atlanta is over Birmingham in the News and broadcasting industry.

Atlanta has the second highest population of Blacks so Atlanta is call the black Mecca as a nick name in relating to that. Atlanta growing in diversity is GREAT! so then Atlanta can be an Asian, latino and etc Meccas as well.

3. Here’s another example NYC is call a fashion capital does that means the fashion industry dominate New York umm no, It means New York is major fashion center it's a aspect of the diversity of New York. You arguing why Atlanta is call a black meeca is like someone in the financial industry arguing why is NYC call a fashion capital.

Most of metro Atlanta is white it's already an false claim that black Mecca refers to the blacks percentages and dominance in Metro Atlanta. ) So everyone pay Attention for straw mans, when posters tried to argue “black Meeca” as percentages and dominance in Metro Atlanta instead of understanding it's a aspect of the diversity in Metro Atlanta that's greater than others Metros Area in the same aspect. pay Attention it‘s a complete straw man.
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Old 03-31-2010, 06:54 AM
 
Location: International Spacestation
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STRAW MAN!

Straw man

Listen! Atlanta becoming more Diverse is GREAT it adding not subtracting! If ATLANTA was to have all white mayors for next 50 year Atlanta would still be nick name the black mecca why because Metro Atlanta has the 2nd largest black population in the US. total population goes 1st New York
2nd Los Angeles 3rd Chicago….. 9th Atlanta. In black population it goes 1st New York literally 2nd Atlanta 3rd Chicago. It's the concentration their not percentages and I told this before.

Again “key word some” conservative whites believe blacks are evil, have a grudges and hate them so if a city is associated with a large black population they would get offended, while many other cities are known for other ethnic populations they would not care. Yes because a double standard if Miami is know for Latin culture they understand that’s just one aspect of the Miami but if Atlanta is known for African American culture then all of the sudden that the only aspect of the city WTF and the city is not welcoming.

So everyone pay Attention for straw mans, when posters tried to argue “black Meeca” as percentages and dominance in Metro Atlanta instead of understanding it's a aspect of the diversity in Metro Atlanta that's greater than others Metros Area in the same aspect. pay Attention it‘s a complete straw man.
Is name calling against TOS? it seems like it would.
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Old 03-31-2010, 06:58 AM
 
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Blacks live in all metros dude.
I know that, the post I responded to wants all black people to live in the same cities.
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Old 03-31-2010, 01:12 PM
 
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I know that, the post I responded to wants all black people to live in the same cities.

Those cities along with Chicago and NY are popular amongst black people thats metros are where you will find the most blacks, Even though blacks have 40 metros to choose from for some reason those are the most popular
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