New lanes on I-285 top-end to cost $11B+. Enough to build 55 miles of MARTA rail. (Atlanta: litigation, safer)

[toll_booth]

Originally Posted by architect77

Y'all just object to everything to get a reply.

No one living in Midtown wants it to be Manhattan, dark streets, no view of sky or trees.

New townhouses on 6th street have been for sale for about a year with no takers.

Once this construction run has ebbed you'll get a more realistic perspective on the qualities of the new Midtown.

You are confusing some bizarre dystopian novel with reality.

[samiwas1]

Originally Posted by jsvh

Just let me know when that happens. Happy to discuss the qualities of Midtown anytime. 98% of people think it is a great place to live and work.

98% of Midtown residents and Midtown workers. If you're going to quote stats, quote them accurately.

In the mean time, how about shifting some of those massive car subsidies to higher capacity, greener, healthier, safer alternatives?

How many times, per mile or person, do you want other alternatives to be funded? And what do you want transit funding to be equal to?

I would like all colleges in Georgia to get equal funding. You know, since they're all the same and everyone should have a choice.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by samiwas1

How many times, per mile or person, do you want other alternatives to be funded? And what do you want transit funding to be equal to?

Just more total subsidies going to higher capacity, greener, healthier, safer alternatives than to car infrastructure. I am not sure why you feel a need to complicate it with "per something". It is for the benefit of everyone and everywhere.

So instead of spending $11B in tax dollars for some fugly extra lanes on 285 / 400 which will just encourage more traffic, we could have built 200+ miles of highspeed rail or doubled the size of MARTA rail in the metro.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by samiwas1

98% of Midtown residents and Midtown workers. If you're going to quote stats, quote them accurately.



How many times, per mile or person, do you want other alternatives to be funded? And what do you want transit funding to be equal to?

I would like all colleges in Georgia to get equal funding. You know, since they're all the same and everyone should have a choice.

I took the survey and I am neither.

[Stormhammer]

Originally Posted by jsvh

Just more total subsidies going to higher capacity, greener, healthier, safer alternatives than to car infrastructure. I am not sure why you feel a need to complicate it with "per something". It is for the benefit of everyone and everywhere.

So instead of spending $11B in tax dollars for some fugly extra lanes on 285 / 400 which will just encourage more traffic, we could have built 200+ miles of highspeed rail or doubled the size of MARTA rail in the metro.

Issue is one is federally funded, the other cannot use that $11B due to legal reasons.

Basically, you have money that cannot be used for MARTA. Use it or lose it.

[MattCW]

Laws can be changed. It's not a can't use it, it's a won't.

[Gulch]

Originally Posted by MattCW

Laws can be changed. It's not a can't use it, it's a won't.

Which requires the former to happen (and where there is no political will to do so).

[wasel]

Originally Posted by architect77

You can just notate that the federal gas tax of 18.4 cents per gallon pays for thru state traffic's wear and tear.

Part of that tax goes to urban mass transit too.

[SEAandATL]

Originally Posted by Gulch

Which requires the former to happen (and where there is no political will to do so).

Hence why I am anti-government and pro-private sector, and vote No on any tax increase.

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by Stormhammer

Issue is one is federally funded, the other cannot use that $11B due to legal reasons.

Basically, you have money that cannot be used for MARTA. Use it or lose it.

The same legislative bodies that dictate that sign these budgets have the power to change the rules on how it is spent.

All of this is just a matter of the public advocating for better spending of our tax dollars. Not some divine law that dictates these tax dollars have to go to subsidizing cars.