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Old 06-26-2019, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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A rail line that doesn't head for a real, walkable destination point as would be the case for I-285
A rail line in the median of I-285 that went the whole loop, could have stations right at or within short walking distance of lots of dense and popular things.

West Village at Atlanta Rd could be a TOD:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8432.../data=!3m1!1e3

Home Depot HQ could have direct connection to a station platform:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8652.../data=!3m1!1e3

Via this pedestrian bridge, direct access to SunTrust Park, The Battery incl the upcoming Thyssenkrup office, the Galleria, and Cumberland Mall via the other ped bridge:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8859.../data=!3m1!1e3

Northside Hospital and the other hospitals and the Concourse towers:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9137.../data=!3m1!1e3

Assembly:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9054.../data=!3m1!1e3

Northlake Mall, and all this stuff:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8494.../data=!3m1!1e3

Greenbriar Mall:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6881.../data=!3m1!1e3

Plus the airport, and plus all the old shopping centers around the loop that could be re-developed into dense TOD's with mid-rises and towers and such. Walkable nodes around all the stations.
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Old 06-26-2019, 04:12 PM
 
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Good work, primal!

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Old 06-26-2019, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Originally Posted by primaltech View Post
A rail line in the median of I-285 that went the whole loop, could have stations right at or within short walking distance of lots of dense and popular things.

West Village at Atlanta Rd could be a TOD:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8432.../data=!3m1!1e3

Home Depot HQ could have direct connection to a station platform:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8652.../data=!3m1!1e3

Via this pedestrian bridge, direct access to SunTrust Park, The Battery incl the upcoming Thyssenkrup office, the Galleria, and Cumberland Mall via the other ped bridge:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8859.../data=!3m1!1e3

Northside Hospital and the other hospitals and the Concourse towers:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9137.../data=!3m1!1e3

Assembly:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9054.../data=!3m1!1e3

Northlake Mall, and all this stuff:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8494.../data=!3m1!1e3

Greenbriar Mall:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6881.../data=!3m1!1e3

Plus the airport, and plus all the old shopping centers around the loop that could be re-developed into dense TOD's with mid-rises and towers and such. Walkable nodes around all the stations.
Ok so perhaps some important destinations are close by. No one in Atlanta likely drives 1/2 or more of the loop on a regular basis because it is big and would take a long time.

If it takes almost an hour from Dunwoody to the airport, imagine how long a 63 mile loop with 10-15 stations would take. 2 hours at least, and that’s going 75 mph which the train travels at now. I’ve ridden behind the operator and it gets up to 75 mph between Lindbergh and Arts Crnter

I’m all for any new heavy rail line anywhere. But a more direct beeline to destinations would be far quicker than that massive loop.
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Old 06-26-2019, 09:13 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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It still works best at moving larger amounts of people along a corridor, at the same time. Cities all over the world are still investing in it; including those cities considered cutting-edge tech: Tokyo, Seoul, China, Europe.
Yeah high speed trains aren’t obsolete technology. China’s system, thousands of miles long, built in about 10 years, travels at 200 mph or more, and haven’t yet had a single fatality.

I think the us will get more as the roads and skies (in the Northeast) cannot accommodate future growth. California still has airspace so the train made less sense, even though I wanted it to succeed.
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Old 06-27-2019, 06:01 AM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Time spent transfering, inclement weather, service disruptions, & possible delays on that other leg would give people pause to using it.
Curious as to why these issues are only brought with transit?
What about: Time spent looking for a parking spot, weather also causes issues with vehicle traffic, traffic congestion and crashes. Car commuting suffers from a lot "what-ifs" as there are more variables vs a grade separated train operating on it's own tracks. Local buses are a different story, but if BRT and Xpress buses were operated in the managed lanes, we could have a nice regional-BRT system.
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Old 06-27-2019, 06:28 AM
 
Location: NW Atlanta
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Curious as to why these issues are only brought with transit?
Because in general, double standards
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Old 06-27-2019, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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The top end is crowded in both directions all day long.
Not true. Approaching 400, I-285 is generally pretty clear in the evenings except for the ramp traffic to 400.

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It wouldn't be clear in people's minds which direction would be open at what time.

Over half the population doesn't even picture a big loop in their minds, and they couldn't tell you whether they were on the outside or inside direction in relation to downtown.

The just know to get on at a familiar interchange and drive to exit number so and so.
HOT lanes would likely be repeat users. So just like they had to get used to the regular exits at some point, they'll get used to the HOT setup.

Besides, it's not like we don't have navigation apps to help.
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Old 06-27-2019, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Kirkwood
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Originally Posted by primaltech View Post
A rail line in the median of I-285 that went the whole loop, could have stations right at or within short walking distance of lots of dense and popular things.

West Village at Atlanta Rd could be a TOD:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8432.../data=!3m1!1e3

Home Depot HQ could have direct connection to a station platform:
https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8652.../data=!3m1!1e3

Via this pedestrian bridge, direct access to SunTrust Park, The Battery incl the upcoming Thyssenkrup office, the Galleria, and Cumberland Mall via the other ped bridge:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8859.../data=!3m1!1e3

Northside Hospital and the other hospitals and the Concourse towers:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9137.../data=!3m1!1e3

Assembly:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.9054.../data=!3m1!1e3

Northlake Mall, and all this stuff:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.8494.../data=!3m1!1e3

Greenbriar Mall:

https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6881.../data=!3m1!1e3

Plus the airport, and plus all the old shopping centers around the loop that could be re-developed into dense TOD's with mid-rises and towers and such. Walkable nodes around all the stations.
All this can be accomplished using BRT, running in the proposed 285 Express Lanes; with connections to NW Express Lanes and GA400 Express Lanes.
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Old 06-27-2019, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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All this can be accomplished using BRT, running in the proposed 285 Express Lanes; with connections to NW Express Lanes and GA400 Express Lanes.
I agree, I just want to see it done right. All inline stations, no buses having to make turns or exits.
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Old 06-27-2019, 01:46 PM
 
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All this can be accomplished using BRT, running in the proposed 285 Express Lanes; with connections to NW Express Lanes and GA400 Express Lanes.

Are you a BRT-lover?
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