24-acre mixed-use development seeks OK in Cobb (homes, live in)

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by hautemomma

This area of Cobb in Kennesaw/at the Kennesaw border is exploding. The "active adult" communities keep coming, and I am wondering who is buying these homes. I guess the graying of our population is not a myth, with elder adults living longer and desiring communities where they can fit in with their demographic and their preferences. There are senior luxury apartments being built at the new Whole Foods complex at the Barrett / 41 intersection, along with other single-family active adult subdivisions being built in Kennesaw on Moon Station Road and Stilesboro Road.

Here's one of them: Fortress Builders | Victoria Crossing | Active Adult | 55+ | Fortress Builders

There's a reason there's lots of traffic coming down 75 in the morning. Lots of people live in Kennesaw (and upper Marietta, Acworth, etc.).

But without adequate transit options, they will be forced to drive (which some cannot handle well) or become slaves to the their homes and depend/burden their family.

[North Beach Person]

A townhouse development with 58 units would likely be sited on between 7 and 10 acres (6 units/acre or 8 units/acre, which are the most common) so that's between 29% and 41% of the 24 acres.


Then you add in the 2 1/2 acres under roof for the shopping center plus nearly that much for parking you're at about half the site.


Depending on the green space, buffers, stormwater management and impervious surface requirements and you get pretty close to the 24.

[ElleKaye]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Kids can take school buses... oh wait that transit and it's evil. It'll corrupt our poor kids with liberal thoughts.

I'm not sure why or if you think there is some reason I'm against public transit. I am saying it did not come to Cobb and the traffic is already bad enough. Because of that, I am also saying density will not be a friend.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by AnsleyPark

Not if they have after school sports or other extracurricular activities. Also, many parents don't want their children sitting on a bus for 45 minutes when the car trip is only 15 minutes.

Riding the bus is good for kids, it teaches them how to deal with situations without having their helicopter parents always intervening.

[hautemomma]

Originally Posted by cqholt

But without adequate transit options, they will be forced to drive (which some cannot handle well) or become slaves to the their homes and depend/burden their family.

Most elder citizens in our country do not have access to mass transit, and I bet many who do decide not to take it anyway. Why don't you go on every city forum on City Data and register the same complaint, because it's pretty universally shared in the US.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by hautemomma

Most elder citizens in our country do not have access to mass transit, and I bet many who do decide not to take it anyway. Why don't you go on every city forum on City Data and register the same complaint, because it's pretty universally shared in the US.

Care to link your stats?

[hautemomma]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Care to link your stats?

No, I don't, and I don't have to. This is not a formal debate, and it's not that serious.

If the US has about 300 million people, you really think most live in 'dense' cities with mass transit?

[jsvh]

Originally Posted by hautemomma

No, I don't, and I don't have to. This is not a formal debate, and it's not that serious.

If the US has about 300 million people, you really think most live in 'dense' cities with mass transit?

No you don't have to do anything. But if your argument is just your opinion it makes it much weaker.

I don't think there is anything to indicate people in the US prefer transit less than elsewhere in the world, they just don't have good access to it.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by hautemomma

No, I don't, and I don't have to. This is not a formal debate, and it's not that serious.

If the US has about 300 million people, you really think most live in 'dense' cities with mass transit?

So you agree your opinion in the previous post was not based on any facts?

[hautemomma]

Originally Posted by jsvh

No you don't have to do anything. But if your argument is just your opinion it makes it much weaker.

I don't think there is anything to indicate people in the US prefer transit less than elsewhere in the world, they just don't have good access to it.

I didn't say anything about preferences. I am talking about access and usage. If most of us do not live in dense cities with mass transit, the majority of people don't have access. How are you going to fault people for a choice they cannot make?

I would assume that many older people aren't interested in taking buses or trains. They'd rather a loved one or caregiver take them where they need to go, if they cannot drive for whatever reason. Just like they'd rather stay in their own homes for as long as possible, contrary to the mythology of loads of retirees leaving their paid-off homes en masse to live in city apartments.