Cobb Pkwy BRT line included in Cobb County's Comprehensive Plan (Atlanta: restaurant, bus)

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by fourthwarden

I don't believe they want MARTA of CoA to pay for anything, which is why they're using HOV Lanes, Mixed Traffic, and Side Riding Bus lanes that already exist, or will exist soon. You're right though, I have no idea why they don't just operate from Arts Center from day one.

That does bring up interesting points though. who's going to build the stations within CoA? Should there be bus lanes along Northside Drive?

Who will build the proposed stations, eg: Beltline, Atlantic Station, etc.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Who will build the proposed stations, eg: Beltline, Atlantic Station, etc.

They could design it not to use stations.

[HH82]

There's nothing rapid about using the HOV lanes, Northside Drive, and 17th street in mixed traffic in rush hour. The only part of this that makes sense is the dedicated lanes on 41. Just feels like yet another half-hearted solution to a problem that will have completely outgrown it by the time it's implemented. Intown traffic isn't getting any lighter.

[fourthwarden]

Originally Posted by bu2

They could design it not to use stations.

When they say stations inside CoA, they probably mean more like generic Bus Shelters with Breeze kiosks. I have a feeling Beltline Inc. will cooperate, and Atlantic Station might pitch in to pay for a stop. We'll see about the others.

Originally Posted by HH82

There's nothing rapid about using the HOV lanes, Northside Drive, and 17th street in mixed traffic in rush hour. The only part of this that makes sense is the dedicated lanes on 41. Just feels like yet another half-hearted solution to a problem that will have completely outgrown it by the time it's implemented. Intown traffic isn't getting any lighter.

Pretty much...

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by bu2

They could design it not to use stations.

Then it is just a bus and will fail.

[bu2]

Originally Posted by cqholt

Then it is just a bus and will fail.

Why?

Park n ride buses succeed very well in many places. BRT is an effort to merge some of the best of LRT and park-n-ride.

[MattCW]

Originally Posted by bu2

Why?

Park n ride buses succeed very well in many places. BRT is an effort to merge some of the best of LRT and park-n-ride.

Because they already have that in the Xpress/express services. If that's all they're going to do, then they don't need to spend any $450 million for it.

[cqholt]

Originally Posted by bu2

Why?

Park n ride buses succeed very well in many places. BRT is an effort to merge some of the best of LRT and park-n-ride.

BRT is a cheaper alternative to LRT, but it should still maintain the high level of serice with stations, off board payment, and frequent service.

[Born 2 Roll]

This BRT proposal is a well-intended (if not highly flawed) start to attempting to improve transit service in heavily-populated and heavily-developed Cobb County.

Though, the inadequate funding and operating models for this proposed line leave much to be desired.

The use of a voter referendum to fund this proposed line leaves it extremely vulnerable to being rejected by angry Cobb County voters eager to send a message to express their displeasure over the escalating costs of the Braves stadium project.

While the decision to only operate the first phase of the line between Cumberland and KSU instead of between Arts Center and KSU is highly questionable from a connectivity standpoint....But such is the debacle that is public transportation throughout much of metro Atlanta these days.

I don't give this proposal much of a chance of being passed by the voters (and I am not necessarily really sure that it should pass at this point), but at least this proposal keeps the conversation about transit improvement going.

[cqholt]

While the decision to only operate the first phase of the line between Cumberland and KSU instead of between Arts Center and KSU is highly questionable from a connectivity standpoint

This may keep the project from getting federal funds.