03-01-2011, 07:04 PM
Location: Atlanta
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Cwkimbro,
All i have to say is that you ROCK!
Sort of off topic, but i definitely thought that there would be twice as many Indians than Koreans living in Johns Creek, but the data shows that there are more Koreans than Indians living in JC. Wow 19.3% Asians.. Now that is a lot of Asians
Awesome!
I have a feeling that i am going to love this place.
I might be wrong about some of this... I'm mainly speaking from personal experience/observations and what my high school graduating class was like....
I think more Indians moved in a little earlier than Koreans did. There have always been both, but I think you will find Norcross, Lilburn, Mountain Park CDP, and the unincorporated places in between have more Indians than Koreans. This is partly due to religious centers and I believe the positioning has alot to do with immediate access to different types of housing and different price points.
Cool fact from my hometown... Lilburn has the largest Stone Hindu temple of its kind outside of India
Google Maps
Another observation to note... particularly with Indians and muslim populations ... some of the newer, infill single cul-de-sac neighborhoods (4-10 houses) in older parts of Gwinnett Co. will become dominated by one minority demographic group... perhaps with similar affiliations to a single church, mosque, or temple.
besides the Gwinnett Place Mall area... if you haven't already... I really recommend you drive down Buford Highway sometimes all the way from Norcross to Lindbergh. Most of the strips malls and churches in the area target different racial/ethinic demographics (especially near Norcross, Doraville and Chamblee).
There are strip malls that are overwhelmingly Mexican, then there are strips malls that are all Vietnamese, all Chinese, etc...
I'm not sure about Koreans in particular. I know there are Korean businesses... but I'm not sure if there are entire Korean strip malls like there are Chinese, Vietnamese, and Mexican/Hispanic.
The area is older and not as nice, but it is really interesting to see.
Testa-
Korea Air has been apart of the SkyTeam Alliance since it was founded. That means whether it is Korean Air or Delta there should be a good amount of flight options between the two. They are both founding members and this is one of Atlanta's main transportation gateways to Asia. I think the Skyteam alliance represents 22% of flight capacity between N. America and Asia. This means Atlanta is cheaper to travel to and easier to access with direct flights or single connection flights vs double connections.
Sadly Delta's Skyteam alliance isn't as highly integrated or expansive as the Star Alliance (but I'm biased..... Lufthansa frequent flier membership is golden!)
03-01-2011, 07:04 PM
Location: Johns Creek, Georgia
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I was actually quite shocked to learn from the DHS's immigration yearbook that Atlanta is #4 nationally in the number of Koreans gaining permanent status, behind only LA, NYC, and Washington DC (we even beat out San Francisco, Chicago, and Seattle).
Testa, Do you have a source link to DHS's immigration yearbook? Where are you getting the data that Atlanta is #4 nationally in the number of Koreans gaining permanent status, behind only LA, NYC, and Washington DC (we even beat out San Francisco, Chicago, and Seattle).
When i first saw Atlanta's New K-Town off of Pleasant Hill (Gwinnett Place Mall) area, It was love at first sight. That's when I knew that Atlanta will be my new home.
03-01-2011, 07:18 PM
Location: Douglasville, GA
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The weather(no snow) and the costs of houses are the only reason I can imagine. But I know many people who enjoy winter and its outdoor activities such as skiiing. And those people would never consider moving to a place like Atlanta.
03-01-2011, 08:13 PM
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Korean churches can be found in many areas NE of Atlanta, from North Druid Hills, Tucker, Gwinnett and to the Alpharetta-Johns Creek area. In many cases, they use the facilities of existing English-speaking churches or take them completely over (sometimes all the signage is in Korean). I do not know the draw either as to why Koreans settled here in larger numbers than some other Asian groups. I knew there are a fair number of Koreans here, but did not realize their numbers were quite that high as a whole in metro Atlanta.
The links you provided, cwkimbro, are a cool reference. I think I had been to that
website before , but it has been a while.
03-01-2011, 08:29 PM
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Testa, Do you have a source link to DHS's immigration yearbook? Where are you getting the data that Atlanta is #4 nationally in the number of Koreans gaining permanent status, behind only LA, NYC, and Washington DC (we even beat out San Francisco, Chicago, and Seattle).
DHS | Yearbook of Immigration Statistics: 2009
Supplemental Chart 2
1) Los Angeles 6,208
2) New York 3,931
3) Washington DC 1,666
4) Atlanta 1,038
5) Chicago 856
6) Seattle 774
7) San Jose 694
8) San Francisco 628
9) Dallas 500
10) Philadelphia 463
If you add San Jose and San Francisco together they would beat us. But Atlanta being roughly double our peer cities (like Philly and Dallas) is pretty impressive. Koreans are our fourth fastest-growing immigrant group, and make up 4-5% of new immigrants. I'd imagine the educational level of Koreans is pretty high, so they definitely make up a group I'm glad to have.
03-01-2011, 09:03 PM
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Koreans are our fourth fastest-growing immigrant group, and make up 4-5% of new immigrants. I'd imagine the educational level of Koreans is pretty high, so they definitely make up a group I'm glad to have.
I agree. And hasn't Atlanta for the most part avoided the tension between blacks and Koreans that has marked some cities? I know there were some attacks here following the Rodney King riots but that was 20 years ago and I haven't heard much more about it. That speaks well of our city's ability to handle diversity.
03-01-2011, 10:15 PM
Location: Johns Creek, Georgia
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Among the Asians living in the U.S., Indians probably top the educational level and median income. Their median income level is higher than the Chinese and Koreans living in the U.S. This group takes education and schools very seriously. They are also a group I'd like to have.
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03-06-2011, 09:28 PM
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The Atlanta metro area is on the grow because of LOW TAXES, abundance of jobs (this answered in a recession remember), excellent roads, generally an open minded population, great climate, weekend trips to mountains or seashore doable. It has EVERYTHING! In my neighborhood in southern Gwinnett County we have a family from France. several people from England, eleven total households where one or both spouses are New Yorkers, a few gay couples, an old rock star, a few Canadians, and everyone gets along very very well. Atlanta IS what southern California was in the 1950's to 1980s, an area on the grow where people want to be and live and make their lives. Numerous companies were in the process of moving to Atlanta and halted their plans due to the recession. Even with that we have Korean Airlines, Delta Airlines, Coca-Cola, NIKE and many many other of the nation's and world's leading companies who have their headquarters here in Atlanta. Alot of mega celebrities live here too including Sir Elton John!
03-09-2011, 09:52 AM
Location: International Spacestation
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I still think Money is the biggest reason. Cheaper labor and less tax. More liberal areas will always be more expensive. Most rich people want to hang onto as much money as they can.
I agree with this 100 percent.
03-09-2011, 11:00 AM
Location: Johns Creek, Georgia
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I spoke with my CPA yesterday and he told me that Georgia allows itemized deductions while Illinois does not at the state level. Even though Illinois is 3% going to 5% while Georgia's state income tax is 6%, I would have been several thousand dollars ahead in terms of taxes had i stayed in Georgia all of 2010. I was encouraged when my CPA told me that i was making the right decision moving my business to Georgia from Illinois in terms of tax benefits.
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People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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