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Old 11-04-2012, 01:31 PM
 
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‘There’s no God and Islam is evil’ speech earns Richard Dawkins ovation from islanders - Arts - Scotsman.com

Richard Dawkins, a famous British atheist, said that "Islam is one of the greatest evils of this world" after a speech.
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Old 11-04-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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Geez, too bad when they move a thread, they can't move all the comments along with it...!
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:38 AM
 
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‘There’s no God and Islam is evil’ speech earns Richard Dawkins ovation from islanders - Arts - Scotsman.com

Richard Dawkins, a famous British atheist, said that "Islam is one of the greatest evils of this world" after a speech.
That's his opinion. He should be able to state it. This was also in his speech (same source):

Prof Dawkins said: “We are terrified of being called ‘Islamophobic’. It is a disgrace a religion prescribes death for leaving it. The vast majority of Muslims would not dream of doing that, but they are taught it in their madrassas… and it only takes a minority to put that into practice. And, as 
we have seen, terrible things happen.”
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:07 PM
 
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Islam IS one of the greatest evils of this world.

And so is Christianity.
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:59 AM
 
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Here's the problem with modern day Islam. It's not just a religion, it's a culture and a way of life (unlike modernized Christianity which we're accustomed to) so when that whole culture and way of life is threatened by an exterior, foreign ideology, it bites back to maintain its power.
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Old 11-07-2012, 02:26 PM
 
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Islam IS one of the greatest evils of this world.

And so is Christianity.

Oh, the irony! 100 million people dead the last 100 years from atheistic regimes....and you call us evil.

lol.
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Old 11-07-2012, 03:09 PM
 
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Oh, the irony! 100 million people dead the last 100 years from atheistic regimes....and you call us evil.

lol.
Can you provide a source for your claim?
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Old 11-07-2012, 04:02 PM
 
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Oh, the irony! 100 million people dead the last 100 years from atheistic regimes.
It's always worthwhile to know that the entire planet of men, women and children being intentionally drowned in the some "great flood" was just another silly, foolish old fairy tale.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:03 PM
 
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Oh, the irony! 100 million people dead the last 100 years from atheistic regimes....and you call us evil.

lol.
You do know that atheistic tenets were not responsible for the killing in those regimes, that's because there are no tenets. Atheism is an absence of beliefs. Even if you want to believe that someone like Stalin or Mao killed people because those people were theists, that still does not mean that these rulers used some atheistic equivalent of the Bible or the Koran to justify the killings. No such thing exists. And their atheism was not responsible for their brutality. Atheism does not promote immorality.
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Old 11-08-2012, 05:36 AM
 
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I agree with Professor Dawkins insofar as I believe that religion is as man-made as latex. However on the question of Islam being 'evil', I think he has overstepped the mark of what it's sensible for him to say as a public figure.

Muslims have been getting picked on by more or less everyone else since 9/11. The overwhelming majority of Muslims did not support 9/11 in any way shape or form, but they're the ones being treated as different because of it. The more stupid members of our society like the EDL in England go on marches against 'Evil Islam', similar idiots burn and deface copies of Qu'ran like the Pastor in the US and US soldiers in Afghanistan. Across the Western world these lowlife imbeciles have attacked Muslims in the streets solely because they are Muslim and they have picketed Mosques. In Germany a Muslim woman was verbally abused while playing with her children in a playground for no reason other than that she was wearing a hijab, and in a disgraceful follow-up crime was murdered inside the actual courtroom when charges were brought against her abuser.

While I have participated in many debates with Muslims on internet forums over the truth or falsehood of their religion, and I think that Islam is as open a target for criticism as any other religion or ideology, I think Professor Dawkins use of inflammatory language like the word 'evil' is only going to give idiots of the types I described above a sense of legitimacy while harassing and abusing Muslims.

Whatever evils Islam is or is not responsible for, Muslims have the same right as anybody else to go about their business without needing to fear for their dignity or safety and Professor Dawkins ought to have known better than to use language like that.

Eoin
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