Most US graduates who start their first job underemployed can't find college-level jobs 10 years later: report (schools, accredited)
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This effort seems to be in it's early stages, but some states are eliminating degree requirements for some jobs. Hey, it's a start.
"Through a mix of executive and legislative actions, at least 16 states no longer require a four-year degree for most state jobs. In March 2022, Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan announced that the state would become the first state in the country to remove the requirements. According to estimates released at the time of the announcement, more than half of the state's 38,000 positions could substitute relevant experience for a four-year degree. In early 2022, state employment data showed that there were more vacant positions in state government than any time in the previous 14 years. A year later, the same report found a slight decrease in the number of vacant positions.
Governors in at least 10 states, including Alaska, California, Colorado, New Jersey, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Dakota, Utah, Virginia, have followed Maryland and eliminated degree requirements for most state positions. In April, National Governor's Association (NGA) Chair Gov. Phil Murphy (N.J.) and Vice Chair Gov. Spencer Cox (Utah) circulated a letter encouraging governors to consider reevaluating degree requirements for government jobs."
I am seeing that more and more at my workplace, especially when the applicant pool is shallow. They usually ask for a 2:1 equivalent of experience (example: 8 years of experience in lieu of a bachelors degree).
My college requires all students to take a meal plan with the exception of part-time students.
Hmm. What state? Higher education institutions are required to present housing costs and meal plans separately; they cannot force a student to purchase a meal plan.
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There are plenty of diploma mills in every field and the top ten education grad schools aren't diploma mills.
Obviously, I wasn’t suggesting elementary-school teachers attend colleges that lack credentialed programs.
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Saying that, there are a number of low paying professions, like teachers, which require a graduate degree.
Elementary-school teachers need a bachelor’s degree and to complete a teacher certification program. Although they may certainly pursue a graduate degree to build skills/increase their salary and/or transition from another career, they can still land a job in their field if they don’t (and it need not be from a top school in order to benefit, if they do).
However, that is simply not the case relative to law; if students don’t graduate from a top-tier law school, they are far more likely to be amongst the underemployed, per the thread. I’m speaking to accountability and reason regarding debt and one’s choice of college/career; in other words, good debt vs. bad.
I'll hand it to you. Probably some people come here for earnest discussion and to hear the other side. I think that's the exception rather than the norm though.
I'm just curious as to why parents send their kids to college to major in fields that have very little market value.
Why would they pay the tuition or take out a student loan?
I'm just curious as to why parents send their kids to college to major in fields that have very little market value.
Why would they pay the tuition or take out a student loan?
What is the thinking behind that?
People have different talents.
I work in IT. I have understand "business IT" well. I have a good bit of programming/engineering knowledge, but I doubt I'd ever be "great" at it. I'm an excellent writer.
I have enough business and IT experience to bridge those gaps, and devise IT solutions to meet a business need. I don't have the technical chops to build complicated software from scratch.
I'm terrible at using my hands - any sort of assembly, trade skills, etc. I'd never be able to make a living as a mechanic. I'm naturally bad at it. Sure, I could improve somewhat, but I'd never have any aptitude for it at all.
Hmm. What state? Higher education institutions are required to present housing costs and meal plans separately; they cannot force a student to purchase a meal plan.....
If the student lives in a dorm the meal plan may be charged separately, although it's usually tagged "Room and Board" and is required for those students.
I kept the meal plan when I moved off campus because it was cheaper than cooking. There were fewer options to the plan back then compared to today. You ate at the dining hall with it, nowhere else.
My college requires all students to take a meal plan with the exception of part-time students.
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If the student lives in a dorm the meal plan may be charged separately, although it's usually tagged "Room and Board" and is required for those students.
The cost of a meal plan is separate from housing. My point is YorktownGal is mistaken; colleges cannot force ‘all students’ to purchase meal plans.
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My college requires all students to take a meal plan with the exception of part-time students.
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At many colleges freshman under 21 who are not living at home are required to live in the dorm and purchase a meal plan. Not all colleges but many do.
Some colleges may strongly recommend (or even require) a minimal meal plan for freshmen, particularly relative to old-school (pun intended) dorms which lack kitchenettes, etc; keep in mind there is also a difference between ‘pay as you go’ vs. a plan that is billed upfront (with tuition). However, that’s different than requiring ‘ALL students’ to purchase a meal plan (and typically there are multiple ways to opt out as well).
That said, it’s a convenient/easier/cheaper option for most freshmen anyway; the issue is relative to transparency.
The cost of a meal plan is separate from housing. My point is YorktownGal is mistaken; colleges cannot force ‘all students’ to purchase meal plans.
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My college requires all students to take a meal plan with the exception of part-time students.
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Starting this fall, full-time commuters at Montclair State University will notice a slight increase in their bills.
This higher cost is due to the introduction of a new mandatory dining plan for commuters who are enrolled in at least 12 credit hours with one or more on-campus classes.
All full-time resident and commuter undergraduate students at Pace University are required to have a meal plan. Resident graduate students are also required to have a meal plan. All meal plans are non-refundable and non-transferrable.
Virginia State University - COMMUTER MEAL PLANS
Commuter meal plans are designed to save you money and are valid for one semester. Simply choose a meal plan that will best fit your schedule. You can purchase a meal plan using your financial aid dollars, a credit card, or cash in the Cashier’s office, located in Virginia Hall.
Most colleges have a commuter meal plan covered by financial aid dollars. Some colleges require participation.
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Elementary-school teachers need a bachelor’s degree and to complete a teacher certification program.
I fixed it for you.
Some states accept a bachelor's degree. Other states require a master's degree. Finally, some states allows newly hired teachers a fixed period of time to complete a masters' degrees.
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