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Old 11-15-2023, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Orange County/Las Vegas
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Even your screen name says it all boss!
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Old 11-15-2023, 09:15 PM
 
Location: Sandy Eggo's North County
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How about we just go with, "Welcome to the site?"
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Old 11-15-2023, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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I’m a store manager at a retail outlet mall and recently, I wrote up an employee over harassment, even though the behavior doesn’t meet the legal definition of harassment, and now my employee doesn’t like me. I don’t understand what I did wrong.

My assistant store manager came to me that she and who I will call employee A were talking about gay rights. Within that conversation, employee A stated that employee B made her uncomfortable a year prior because employee B made a comment that the idea of same-sex relationships are weird. Also, in that conversation was another person, who I will call employee C. I was shocked and horrified by this revelation and asked my assistant why neither employee A and C came to me right away about this highly inappropriate discussion. My assistant store manager told me that employee B made both employee A and C horribly scared of working with B, even though A and B closed multiple times together, that they're scared for their life and that must've been why they didn't say anything until a year later, employee A had been ruminating about the event since a year ago, and that employee B must've gotten up in their faces and intimidated A and C to not speak up.

Because of my training as a store manager, I’m supposed to take every harassment complaint seriously and investigate the claims because I'm legally required to. If not, me and my assistant manager can be fired from the company for knowing about this incident and not doing anything about it. I talk to employee A, who confirms the allegations, but she kept telling us that it happened a year ago, that she's over it, and that it's nothing and the assistant manager didn't have her consent to report it. I then call employee C who gave me more information that employee B asked employee C's views on the political landscape and asked if C believed in God. I then investigate harassment and sexual harassment under the employee handbook. Unfortunately, neither employee A and C made it known to employee B that the behavior was making them uncomfortable, there was no repeated discussions after this incident, employee B doesn’t have a record of anything and has been a stellar employee, I spoke to all my other employees and no one has said that employee B say anything harassing since then or before, employee B has treated everyone kindly and friendly, this incident occurred a year prior, and with that, it wouldn't fall under legal harassment according to harassment laws federally and in the employee handbook.

Even though the behavior and incident are a one-off, I still find it totally inappropriate to discuss politics at work and ask if someone believes in God (!), and employee B should know better than to ask and start this type of discussion. I'm also so angry that employee B made both A and C scared for their lives that they couldn't bring this up until a year later. I must protect them from employee B since B must've intimidated them in some way. I then write employee B up for harassment, even though it doesn’t fit in the legal definition of harassment. I also want to cover myself as a store manager and have a documented case against this worker to make sure employee B doesn’t do it again. I was going to fire employee B, but I decided against it because she does great work, even though I don't want a bigoted, homophobic member on my team, so I write up employee B without getting her side because I already know everything that was said to me is true and I've got the proof and witnesses.

When I spoke to employee B, she admitted to some of the allegations (saying that same-sex relationships are weird), but she stated that she never asked C about her religion. Employee B said that she only made a remark about how people, who attend church and CCD class, were bullies to her and she didn't understand why they attended CCD class since they're hypocrites. I don't believe a word of what B says, and I say that this is beginning to be a she-said-she-said case, and that I believe employee C's words over B's. After all why would C lie to me? Well, employee B didn’t take it well and quit on me. I don’t see what I did wrong. What did I do wrong?
You wrote someone up based on hearsay from your assistant, is that what I’m understanding? As a retail manager, I assume you understand that people have conversations at work and things come up in this more casual environment. I have worked retail and been a supervisor and at most, I would have asked only the three people directly involved in this supposed conversation to make sure there are no additional unreported issues and advised them all to refrain from controversial topics at work and to report if they have ongoing problems with someone making them uncomfortable. None of them are corroborating the extreme scenario presented by your assistant and clearly these people have been getting along well enough for a year now! I find the whole thing overblown, and how humiliating that you asked everyone else who was not involved if person B made them feel any sort of way. Good grief. It doesn’t sound like any one of them needs “protection” from this person. I would absolutely quit if it were me.
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Old 11-15-2023, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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I was about to post the same thing. It sounds like A and C are a couple of drama queens.
It sounds like the assistant manager made it all up! A and C when asked directly didn’t admit to feeling that way. The assistant sounds like a pot stirring gossip.
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Old 11-16-2023, 06:14 AM
 
Location: southwestern PA
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Nothing to see here!

OP posted: 11-14-2023 07:17 PM

They have not been back since, not even to check responses.

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Totally bogus and not worth anymore time.
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Old 11-16-2023, 07:10 AM
 
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Nothing to see here!

OP posted: 11-14-2023 07:17 PM

They have not been back since, not even to check responses.

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Totally bogus and not worth anymore time.
Right. It's also, apparently, OP's first and only post on City Data.
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Old 11-16-2023, 08:13 AM
 
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Managers like you are the reason why a lot of people quit their jobs and go work for themselves and be their own bosses...
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Old 11-16-2023, 08:57 AM
 
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OP, did it at any time occur to you that maybe A or C brought up same sex relationships first, not B? Could B have given an honest opinion in response to a question and ended up on the defensive? Is the reason why you are so quick to take A's side (to the point of pursuing a matter that A dropped long ago) because you personally are offended by B's opinion?

You don't seem to run a safe workplace, no wonder B ran.
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Old 11-16-2023, 10:06 AM
 
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OP, did it at any time occur to you that maybe A or C brought up same sex relationships first, not B? Could B have given an honest opinion in response to a question and ended up on the defensive? Is the reason why you are so quick to take A's side (to the point of pursuing a matter that A dropped long ago) because you personally are offended by B's opinion?

You don't seem to run a safe workplace, no wonder B ran.
Have you not been reading all the post.
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Old 11-16-2023, 11:21 AM
 
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A and C were afraid for their LIFE? Seriously? That's pretty dramatic. LOL
They were obviously saying that to get the person in trouble. Did this person who was "afraid for their life" report it to police?
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