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Old 01-18-2023, 07:59 PM
 
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I actually feel sorry for you for believing all that stuff.
A couple long winded condescending posts written by what people expect to see from a Gov. informational misinformation campaign employee. Even including all the tag words.

Gotta love this line " Humira and other breakthrough treatments have some very dangerous side effects that trump anything in the COVID space".

I guess in his mind, with some covid side effects being, Suffer then Die, is not as dangerous as the side effects of Humira.

I don't like conspiracy theories, but isn't the story of Government, Doctors and scientists not knowing the harm that Covid vaccines can cause a Conspiracy theory of it's own ?
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Old 01-19-2023, 12:55 AM
 
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Your post only underscores the point I was making--That is, that people have their minds made up in spite of whatever evidence one could offer to the contrary, no reason, no explanation, and no facts will ever change your views, period. Is that a surprise? No, it isn't, given your general distrust of everything remotely connected to your political notions. Your assertions were debunked, your suspicions still remain.

No one is saying the vaccines didn't have their risk, did you bother to read the links I offered? All manner of people are badly damaged every year by either, drugs, surgeries, foods, machinery, etc. and the people responsible are all too often let off the hook for the reason that the damage done wasn't proven to be a "willful act." I don't expect agreement, but to come here and tell people that they made a huge mistake by getting a shot is disingenuous and assumes you know and understand the scope of these vaccines better than the professionals who can offer a professional medical opinion. I knew the risks, they were already being reported in the news, I still got the shot, so did millions of others and I still fly on aircraft, even though that can be very dangerous..

You had problems, others had problems, and still, millions of others died from COVID. Death seems to be a very real consequence of COVID, and even that fact gets bandied about in the conspiratorial clans as "fake news," so carry on with the idea that your government, the drug companies, research Doctors, scientists, and most certainly Biden, and any Democrats, are out to get you. It's terrible that you had the problems you had, and it's unfortunate that we don't live in a world wherein we can be fully assured of our well being on the highways, in our schools, at work, at home, or after getting a vaccination, but life is all about risk even when we're trying to save lives. I offered my opinion, I didn't want to debate this, and it's OK that we don't agree, it wasn't expected.
Excellent post. Informative and also compassionate. Doesn’t seem like Floorist is in a mental space to consider words and respond in a rational manner, but then you expected that.
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Old 01-19-2023, 08:06 AM
 
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Excellent post. Informative and also compassionate. Doesn’t seem like Floorist is in a mental space to consider words and respond in a rational manner, but then you expected that.
I don't like posts that are sponsored by big pharma.
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Old 01-19-2023, 11:33 AM
 
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A couple long winded condescending posts written by what people expect to see from a Gov. informational misinformation campaign employee. Even including all the tag words.

Gotta love this line " Humira and other breakthrough treatments have some very dangerous side effects that trump anything in the COVID space".

I guess in his mind, with some covid side effects being, Suffer then Die, is not as dangerous as the side effects of Humira.

I don't like conspiracy theories, but ...
"Long winded," Three short paragraphs have you stumbling all over the place in some lame attempt to inflict the greatest harm imaginable to you--Chastising others by telling them, that it was just TOO long for you to read. Makes us wonder how you garnered all that medical knowledge given your prefered length of reading time.

"Condescending." In your dictionary I guess that equates to anyone's statements that don't agree with your illustrious demonstration of medical knowledge.

It's just plain foolish to persist in the idea that the majority of scientists, Doctors, Lab researchers, and staff from some of our most prestigious universities worldwide should be listening to you instead of relying on their own long established methods of discovery. Did you think the links I provided were the stuff of my own thoughts? No, they weren't, they represent the collective of conclusions reached by people way more qualified than you, or me.

In spite of your obvious lacking with regard to the negative side effects from Humira and other TNF blockers, the truth about these substances suggests that they are indeed a very real risky drug to opt into, but the effects of the disease seems to be at levels which drives people to take the risky treatment. Luckily Crohn's disease and other inflammatory diseases haven't become political footballs so we can just leave it to the professional medical community.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/...hs/1206103001/

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Old 01-19-2023, 12:26 PM
 
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Excellent post. Informative and also compassionate. Doesn’t seem like Floorist is in a mental space to consider words and respond in a rational manner, but then you expected that.
Some guys come to the forums with an eye toward advancing their own delusions, admittedly not having the best of educations, nor are they astute readers, but most likely big on TV watching or at the least partaking in the wisdom of Tucker, Sean, and RIP, the Rushter. And yes, I do expect very little in the way of meaningful conversation here, the years have passed and the nation seems to be much more divided. This may be too laboriously lengthy for the non reader--but you seem to have that special patience required for proper digestion of information.
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Old 01-19-2023, 02:12 PM
 
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Some guys come to the forums with an eye toward advancing their own delusions, admittedly not having the best of educations, nor are they astute readers, but most likely big on TV watching or at the least partaking in the wisdom of Tucker, Sean, and RIP, the Rushter. And yes, I do expect very little in the way of meaningful conversation here, the years have passed and the nation seems to be much more divided. This may be too laboriously lengthy for the non reader--but you seem to have that special patience required for proper digestion of information.
Take a look in the mirror.

This thread is for Covid-19 Vaccine Injured. Not peoples agenda to insult others who have been negatively impacted by the Vaccine.

Some posters sound like the type that go to cancer centers to laugh at the patients.
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Old 01-20-2023, 11:55 PM
 
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Take a look in the mirror.

This thread is for Covid-19 Vaccine Injured. Not peoples agenda to insult others who have been negatively impacted by the Vaccine.

Some posters sound like the type that go to cancer centers to laugh at the patients.
There was no insult. There was no mocking. There wasn’t even doubt at the negative effects claimed. If you see that, that’s your own issue coming to the forefront.

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Old 01-27-2023, 10:13 AM
 
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News that the left wants to block....
https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/...05890612420609
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Old 01-29-2023, 03:15 PM
 
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Three specialists and my PCP say that the vaccine caused my health problems. I will take that over a random poster on the internet, who sounds like they might work for Moderna.
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Old 02-05-2023, 04:09 AM
 
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Inslee tested positive for covid again. He suffered very mild symptoms. His last booster was in September. He says he is glad he took his shots, or else he would have been much worse off. He recommends we talk to our doctor to get vaccinated if we haven't taken a shot yet. This message has been paid for by Pfizer.

So this clown is still taking covid tests? Someone should make him take the Chinese anal covid test. He would probably love it.
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