$30 Car Tabs Struck Down (Seattle, Tacoma: school, college, taxes)

[fassopony]

For those who don't understand (or are purposefully ignorant of...) how our sales tax structure in the state works- 6.5% of all sales tax belongs to the STATE not the county it is collected in. So if I drive to Auburn and fill up my tank on the King County side, the tax assessed on the gas sale is collected under the locality of King County but is given directly to the WA Dept of Revenue to disperse according to the current state/county/city budget. So $10.00 in sales tax, the state gets $6.50 and the locale gets $3.50.

Excise taxes belong to the state unless the city (Seattle, Tacoma, etc) has their own excise tax which is then filed and paid to the corresponding city with no state interference.

Currently the city/county sales tax rates are varied but they are all about .025 to .036 and that little bit goes to the city or county it is collected in. Further, property taxes go to the county.


So no, King Co is not funding the state. Must be the same yahoos who think Texas is funded with federal dollars. The concept of federal funds paying for federal orgs like military bases, etc., is beyond them and they don't know how to figure out how revenues work in governmental accounting.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by fassopony

For those who don't understand (or are purposefully ignorant of...) how our sales tax structure in the state works- 6.5% of all sales tax belongs to the STATE not the county it is collected in. So if I drive to Auburn and fill up my tank on the King County side, the tax assessed on the gas sale is collected under the locality of King County but is given directly to the WA Dept of Revenue to disperse according to the current state/county/city budget. So $10.00 in sales tax, the state gets $6.50 and the locale gets $3.50.

Excise taxes belong to the state unless the city (Seattle, Tacoma, etc) has their own excise tax which is then filed and paid to the corresponding city with no state interference.

Currently the city/county sales tax rates are varied but they are all about .025 to .036 and that little bit goes to the city or county it is collected in. Further, property taxes go to the county.


So no, King Co is not funding the state. Must be the same yahoos who think Texas is funded with federal dollars. The concept of federal funds paying for federal orgs like military bases, etc., is beyond them and they don't know how to figure out how revenues work in governmental accounting.

If we are switching topics to sales tax, perhaps start a new thread called sales tax. Washington state is one of the few states in the country that doesn’t collect income tax. The state still requires funds to function including our amazing ferry service. Washington is ranked #29 for overall tax burden.

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-wit...x-burden/20494

[fassopony]

Seacove, you really don't understand how things are funded, do you?

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by fassopony

Seacove, you really don't understand how things are funded, do you?

I’ve responded to the original post in detail:

Originally Posted by fassopony

"Pierce County and the voters in my district voted overwhelmingly for I-976... my constituents don’t believe light rail will benefit them, just Seattle," said Republican State Sen. Steve O'Ban. "I am deeply disappointed that the court ignored taxpayers, rejected the holding of the lower court, and struck down the voter approved I-976."

The initiative, which voters approved in November, would have capped most taxes paid through annual vehicle registration at $30 and largely revoked state and local authority governments to add new taxes and fees.


https://komonews.com/news/local/eyma...-supreme-court

Looks like we will be funding Seattle and King Counties socialist crap for a while. Vote accordingly in a few weeks, this is solely on Inslee, King Co, and that deceitful AG who can't defend the people for fear of getting his socialist buddies riled up.

1. Pierce pays a very small amount of ST3.
2. Pierce receives connection to the regional transit system, wants it and needs it.
3. Pierce receives a half a billion dollars a year more from the state (namely King County) than it contributes.

Your response was to change the subject to sales taxes.

I reminded you that the state has no income tax, must be funded some way, and overall, the state is in the lower half (#29) of the country for overall tax burden. Trying to make it about me personally when I’ve provided the links seems to be an attempt at distraction. Apologies if I’ve missed the connection to $30 dollar tabs.

[fassopony]

Those funds that you think King Co contributes to Pierce are sales tax funds. The sales tax does not belong to King County- it belongs to the state.

Your big copy paste was nonsensical and would earn a less than passing grade in even a poorly run diploma mill.

Pierce voted against ST3.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by fassopony

Those funds that you think King Co contributes to Pierce are sales tax funds. The sales tax does not belong to King County- it belongs to the state.

Your big copy paste was nonsensical and would earn a less than passing grade in even a poorly run diploma mill.

Pierce voted against ST3.

My big copy and paste was me me providing sourcing. And as has already been stated, let Pierce County give up rail and transit to Tacoma and Puyallup. Do it. Their $5B out of $28B won’t be missed, especially if we’re cutting them out of the transit system entirely. We give them a half a billion dollars a year. Stop that too. They are not paying for themselves. They can’t afford their own infrastructure. And don’t title the thread $30 car tabs and then talk about sales tax.

It appears you’re planning to leave so you can put all this behind you. Happy trails.

[Transmition]

Originally Posted by fassopony

Those funds that you think King Co contributes to Pierce are sales tax funds. The sales tax does not belong to King County- it belongs to the state.

So now apply this argument to why you shouldn't say it is unfair when state money is spent by the state in a city within it.

[fassopony]

Originally Posted by Seacove

My big copy and paste was me me providing sourcing. And as has already been stated, let Pierce County give up rail and transit to Tacoma and Puyallup. Do it. Their $5B out of $28B won’t be missed, especially if we’re cutting them out of the transit system entirely. We give them a half a billion dollars a year. Stop that too. They are not paying for themselves. They can’t afford their own infrastructure. And don’t title the thread $30 car tabs and then talk about sales tax.

It appears you’re planning to leave so you can put all this behind you. Happy trails.

No, you do not. Again, and for the last time, King County does not get to lay dibs on the states sales tax revenue.

I would hope you are purposefully ignorant but unfortunately it does seem you just can't grasp simple math and revenues. It's ok, it's hard. Best to you.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by fassopony

No, you do not. Again, and for the last time, King County does not get to lay dibs on the states sales tax revenue.

I would hope you are purposefully ignorant but unfortunately it does seem you just can't grasp simple math and revenues. It's ok, it's hard. Best to you.

Let me help you. Again.

Why are we exporting billions of dollars around the state?’ The coming showdown over Seattle’s money

"Which counties get more in state spending than they pay in taxes? And which are net “donors” of tax money to the entire state system (which means schools, colleges, prisons, welfare payments and other state government functions).

Punch line: The entire state is mooching off King County, not the other way around.

It turns out King County taxpayers exported a record $2.95 billion to prop up the state’s other counties..."

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...eattles-money/

[tifoso]

First, the tax revenue generated in King County that is collected under state law doesn't belong to King County, as fassopony has correctly (and repeatedly) pointed out. If King County has a problem with how state revenue is distributed, they can take that fight to Olympia.

And if they pull that off, then Seattle can battle with Redmond, Bellevue, Kirkland, Renton, Kent, etc, and the unincorporated parts of King County over how to share their windfall. Somehow I don't see the citizens of the suburban cities or their electeds necessarily sharing political priorities with the likes of Sawant, Mosqueda, and Herbold.