"Pacific Northwest" term (2015, how much, public school)

[StealthRabbit]

Originally Posted by Seacove

I would think the term would be "Greater Pacific Northwest" meaning larger in order to include states such as Idaho or Montana portions. Since Idaho and Montana are in no way connected to the Pacific ocean, it's quite a leap to include them in the Pacific Northwest. But Greater Pacific Northwest, would imply expanding that to include such distant areas.

Culturally, Idaho is much more like Wyoming and Montana than anything to do with the Pacific coast.

Really... New Geography? (like new math?)

Last time I checked (elementary school) ID and MT were in Pacific Drainage basin
shh... don't tell the US Gov about this...
Rivers in the Upper Missouri, Yellowstone, and Upper Columbia River Ecosystem, Mountain-Prairie Region, U.S. Fish and Wiildlife Service
and be especially careful about informing ID and MT!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple..._%28Montana%29

And surely the Missoula Flood originated in WA or Oregon (of Course) (most certainly Seattle! (that comprises ALL of WA, correct! )

Glacial Lake Missoula and the Ice Age Floods

Flood Facts:

The ice dam was over 2000 feet tall.

Glacial Lake Missoula was as big as Lakes Erie and Ontario combined.

The flood waters ran with the force equal to 60 Amazon Rivers.

Car-sized boulders embedded in ice floated some 500 miles; they can still be seen today!





Montana Natural History Center
120 Hickory Street
Missoula, Montana 59801

Thank GOODNESS for ID and MT so PNW companies have a PNW destination to flee the irrational and restrictive rules of WA and OR! (at the rate of 300+ business per yr). Maybe that includes J-O-B-s and Tax revenue (Don't tell Olympia and Salem ... but ID and MT are really impressed with the additional j-o-b-s!) shhhh.... keep the good thing going and allow CHOICE to business owners and farmers!

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by PS90

Ummm, I don't get it. So, do we define the PACIFIC Northwest as just the towns of Grey's Harbor, Westport, and the other towns right on the coast? How is Issaquah or Puyallup connected to the Pacific, but Yakima isn't? Because of a mountain range? - I don't think any definition of regional nomenclature is strictly limited to mountain borders.

If you want to get to the town level, no problem, Issaquah and Puyallup are generally part of the Seattle metro with little to no separation and Seattle is on the ocean waters of Puget Sound. Yakima is connected only in that it is in Washington state. I think people group Eastern Washington as Pacific Northwest because they are in Washington State but typically when one thinks of the Pacific Northwest, they think water and evergreens.

[Syringaloid]

Originally Posted by Seacove

If you want to get to the town level, no problem, Issaquah and Puyallup are generally part of the Seattle metro with little to no separation and Seattle is on the ocean waters of Puget Sound. Yakima is connected only in that it is in Washington state. I think people group Eastern Washington as Pacific Northwest because they are in Washington State but typically when one thinks of the Pacific Northwest, they think water and evergreens.

And there are plenty of evergreens and water; lakes, streams, rivers, (in addition to arid deserts) in areas of Eastern WA and OR as well as in Idaho. Idaho is the most forested inland western state, (yes there's much more to Idaho then the Snake River Plains you drive through on the interstate) so evergreens are not in short supply in the state.

[Seacove]

[quote=StealthRabbit;41032428]

Last time I checked (elementary school) ID and MT were in Pacific Drainage basin

Pacific Drainage basin? Really? Are we that eager to be a part of the Pacific Northwest that you would try to include distances over 500 miles from the Pacific based on drainage?

Your tax obsession has nothing to do with the fact that Idaho and Montana are not in the Pacific Northwest.

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by Syringaloid

And there are plenty of evergreens and water; lakes, streams, rivers, (in addition to arid deserts) in areas of Eastern WA and OR as well as in Idaho. Idaho is the most forested inland western state, so evergreens are not in short supply in the state.

And yet no connection to the Pacific ocean whatsoever in the state of Idaho. None. Northwest, but not Pacific Northwest as you yourself stated.

[StealthRabbit]

Originally Posted by Syringaloid

And there are plenty of evergreens and water; lakes, streams, rivers, (in addition to arid deserts) in areas of Eastern WA and OR as well as in Idaho. Idaho is the most forested inland western state, so evergreens are not in short supply in the state.

careful... Do you also THINK there are evergreen trees and lakes / streams, rivers in ID and MT!

S-E-A-T-T-L-E think, live, breath, embrace S-E-A-T-T-L-E
Do this for a few decades and check back to verify you have corrected your 'thinking' (?)!

[Syringaloid]

Originally Posted by Seacove

Pacific Drainage basin? Really? Are we that eager to be a part of the Pacific Northwest that you would try to include distances over 500 miles from the Pacific based on drainage?

Help me out here, I am trying to understand a few of your statements regarding the Pacific Northwest. You almost make it sound like it's uber cool or something to aspire to.....to be part of the PNW, almost like it is the cool kids club or something.

[CrazyDonkey]

Originally Posted by PS90

Thanks for the history. That's always very interesting to me.

It would be much more reliable with references, though.

Here's some (from a quick Google search, don't know how reputable the websites are):

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G2-3401803127.html

The Northwest! What is it? - Go Northwest! A Travel Guide

http://teacher.scholastic.com/schola...11-REGIONS.pdf (for kids, but still a good map)

Mostly used Wikipedia to detail the geography and timelines:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_District

Oregon Country | historical region, Canada-United States | Britannica.com





https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...-Northwest.jpg (Wilkes Expedition map/1841 - big!)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Columbia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Treaty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Territory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Northwest

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Territory



Note: According to this map, the Columbia Basin includes all or parts of eight states (Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Utah, Nevada, and California) and two provinces (British Columbia and Alberta).

[Syringaloid]

Originally Posted by Seacove

And yet no connection to the Pacific ocean whatsoever in the state of Idaho. None. Northwest, but not Pacific Northwest as you yourself stated.

What about the Salmon who swim all of the way to and from the Sawtooths in Central Idaho to and from the Pacific Ocean? And that river called....the Salmon River which also supports sea going fishies?

[Seacove]

Originally Posted by Syringaloid

Help me out here, I am trying to understand a few of your statements regarding the Pacific Northwest. You almost make it sound like it's uber cool or something to aspire to.....to be part of the PNW, almost like it is the cool kids club or something.

To Idaho and Montana, I think it is. Washington and Oregon don't need to do that. You need to go back to Portland if you want to be with the cool kids.

Originally Posted by Syringaloid

What about the Salmon who swim all of the way to and from the Sawtooths in Central Idaho to and from the Pacific Ocean? And that river called....the Salmon River which also supports sea going fishies?

Nope. Is every region defined by a fish?