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Old 12-25-2021, 03:52 PM
 
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I agree the article in that link was hard to follow. I simply did a search of the engineer that was mentioned in the last link I posted (https://nypost.com/2021/11/10/engine...re-vanishing/?).

Here is another link to the same engineer's story: https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/world...aysia-airlines. In that link, that was posted on the 6th of this month, I quote: "The area he now believes the plane crashed is a 40 nautical mile radius.....". Hopefully, that will head searchers into the right area.

PS Merry Xmas!
By now, the plane could be anywhere, though, couldn't it (almost), due to the strong ocean currents? Still, it would be cool if they found it. Those poor bereaved relatives! It would provide some closure.
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Old 12-25-2021, 04:56 PM
 
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Who knows if they will ever find it. They have been looking for Amelia Earhart’s plane since the 1930’s. And the probable search area is much smaller than MH 370. Even a large modern passenger aircraft is just a grain of sand in the vastness of the ocean.
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Old 12-26-2021, 02:06 AM
 
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BUT... when all is said and done, the super powers DO have a handle on what is "incoming" with respect to missiles, so why not end all the speculation and tell us what happened and where it is?

There was a company who offered to search the seabed in the area of the supposed crash with sonar etc for free. They would get paid if they found it. They did not. I emailed them to ask what they would do with the data they collected and would it be available to the public and received no answer. Not really surprising if it was a governmental front company but you would have thought they could have said something like "we dont know yet".

Because I am someone who believes many conspiracies, I suspect it was funded by some government which wanted the data from the search to check out what is down there. There could be anything down there - alien bases or just underwater mountains and valleys.
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Old 12-26-2021, 05:45 AM
 
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By now, the plane could be anywhere, though, couldn't it (almost), due to the strong ocean currents? Still, it would be cool if they found it. Those poor bereaved relatives! It would provide some closure.
According to the engineer Richard Godfrey in the NY Post he used this new system:

"Weak Signal Propagation Reporter (WSPR) is now being used to accurately calculate the final location of the Malaysian Airlines plane before it disappeared.

WSPR is a grid of radio signals which covers the globe allowing planes to be tracked as they set off invisible “digital tripwires” which reveal their position."

Still, we are left with three different links and none of them are that helpful to casual observers. That second link, from the London News Today, stated:

"British experts say Airplane crash It flows into the Indian Ocean 1,993 km west of Perth, Western Australia, and is now 4,000 m below sea level."

That doesn't make a lot of sense, especially when comparing it to the first article that was written last month. So I am confused, but hopeful that something good comes from a new technology.
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Old 12-26-2021, 10:32 AM
 
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Who knows if they will ever find it. They have been looking for Amelia Earhart’s plane since the 1930’s. And the probable search area is much smaller than MH 370. Even a large modern passenger aircraft is just a grain of sand in the vastness of the ocean.
Earhart's plane was burned by US armed forces, when they took over Saipan in the Marshal Islands at the end of WWII. She'd been incarcerated there, after running out of gas over the islands, and being picked up (with her plane) by the Japanese, and taken to the jail in Saipan.

There were US navy personnel who witnessed the plane being taken out of the hangar where the Japanese had stored it, and set afire by Navy officers. Some were present when a safe continuing her briefcase was blasted open. These people have given their testimony on film. Local islanders as well have testified about seeing her being transported by truck on Saipan along with Fred Noonan, and the (adult) children of (now deceased) people who washed her clothes and cooked her food while she was in prison have told of their parents' stories.
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Old 12-27-2021, 03:47 AM
 
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Earhart's plane was burned by US armed forces, when they took over Saipan in the Marshal Islands at the end of WWII. She'd been incarcerated there, after running out of gas over the islands, and being picked up (with her plane) by the Japanese, and taken to the jail in Saipan.

There were US navy personnel who witnessed the plane being taken out of the hangar where the Japanese had stored it, and set afire by Navy officers. Some were present when a safe continuing her briefcase was blasted open. These people have given their testimony on film. Local islanders as well have testified about seeing her being transported by truck on Saipan along with Fred Noonan, and the (adult) children of (now deceased) people who washed her clothes and cooked her food while she was in prison have told of their parents' stories.
OK, so what happened to her and her body? Does anyone know where she was buried? Actually, there are probablyloads of people buried out there and it is unlikely a gravestone, cross, etc or buried her separately or even remembered where. It is sad that such an explorers life ended in that way, unmarked and unknown. Just another consequence of war I guess.
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Old 12-27-2021, 08:54 AM
 
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I think one of the things that triggered speculation about Earhart being captured by the Japanese was a claim that photos existed showing her on a Japanese controlled island. A researcher found that these photos were taken two years prior to the round the world flight.

The pictures themselves were part of a Japanese picture book showing life in the South Seas. The figures in the photo were taken long distance making it impossible to accurately determine facial features.

And this speculation that Earhart’s plane was destroyed by US military forces. Why would they do this? The US Navy deployed several ships to find Earhart when she vanished. It was one of the largest search and rescue missions in US Navy history.

The most obvious explanation is that Earhart got lost, ran out of gas and crashed. We’re talking about 1930’s navigation technology. Communication was by short wave radio. And Earhart deliberately left a trailing wind out antenna wire for the radio behind as she thought it took up too much space. Earhart’s navigator used a sextant to take location fixes.
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Old 12-31-2021, 07:15 AM
 
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OK, so what happened to her and her body? Does anyone know where she was buried? Actually, there are probablyloads of people buried out there and it is unlikely a gravestone, cross, etc or buried her separately or even remembered where. It is sad that such an explorers life ended in that way, unmarked and unknown. Just another consequence of war I guess.
One witness on Saipan, a local islander who was a child at the time, saw the Japanese shooting Amelia and burying her in a shallow grave or trench. Investigators later went back to dig up the grave for evidence, with the same (by then--much older) witness leading them to it. My memory at that point gets fuzzy. But investigators speculate, that the whole story was covered up, because by the time her stuff was found, the US had won the war, and wanted to rebuild a relationship with Japan. The government knew there would be a huge public outrage against Japan, if the story were found out.

Records of these discoveries (at the end of the war, in Saipan) were expunged. A Navy officer who wrote a report of Earhardt's plane and briefcase being found on the island said that his report later disappeared. It's my opinion, that the team called TIGAR, which has spent decades investigating their theory that she crashed on Nikomororo Island, was organized as a decoy to keep public attention focussed away from Saipan and Japan.
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Old 12-31-2021, 09:13 AM
 
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Note the witnesses appeared to be old and recollecting from childhood memories. The Japanese shot a lot of people throughout the islands they controlled. Prisoners of war, locals and European colonists who had the misfortune to be caught up in the war. Amelia, Fred and the Electra are deep in the ocean waiting to be found.
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Old 02-20-2022, 03:40 PM
 
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This looks like an interesting lead:
https://youtu.be/Jq-d4Kl8Xh4
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