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They are late to the party and missed out. The early adopters of the EV all have theirs, and it's a hard sell to the rest of us. Many are waiting for a better charging network, or a greater range. Others will never buy an EV even if they are given away.
They are late to the party and missed out. The early adopters of the EV all have theirs, and it's a hard sell to the rest of us. Many are waiting for a better charging network, or a greater range. Others will never buy an EV even if they are given away.
If they give the Toyota at the Chevy Bolt EUV price then I might consider it. The thing is in the EV world, Tesla has set the standard, even though they have a lot of fit and finish issues, the buyers are willing to put up with these issues due to pricing, ease of purchase and fast charging along with good network.
In my case, we need a around town car which makes fast charging irrelevant. Price is a big factor along with insurance since we have two young drivers. The Tesla costs twice as much to insure compared to a Bolt EUV or a Kona EV. Not to mention, I can get a used one of these with 20K miles for much cheaper than the Tesla. But I am not our typical customer. The typical customer would sit home and click away and wants to be able to do a 600 mile road trip with the car.
If they give the Toyota at the Chevy Bolt EUV price then I might consider it. The thing is in the EV world, Tesla has set the standard, even though they have a lot of fit and finish issues, the buyers are willing to put up with these issues due to pricing, ease of purchase and fast charging along with good network.
In my case, we need a around town car which makes fast charging irrelevant. Price is a big factor along with insurance since we have two young drivers. The Tesla costs twice as much to insure compared to a Bolt EUV or a Kona EV. Not to mention, I can get a used one of these with 20K miles for much cheaper than the Tesla. But I am not our typical customer. The typical customer would sit home and click away and wants to be able to do a 600 mile road trip with the car.
They aren't buying EVs anyway. Most actual EV owners have gas cars for longer trips. Once the Supercharger network opens up, I'll maybe reevaluate that. It wasn't a huge priority so I have one of the slower chargers. Faster than a Bolt or Toyota, not nearly as fast as a Tesla or Hyundai. Major thing isn't really speed so much as reliability though hence why when Superchargers open up I might consider it. It's not such a huge issue more locally here in the Bay Area as it's very urbanized and there's another charger in 5-10 miles.... but you get out in flyover country where it's 50 miles between chargers and there's a good change you don't make it from one out of order charger to the next closest one. Tesla's network is way more reliable.
They aren't buying EVs anyway. Most actual EV owners have gas cars for longer trips. Once the Supercharger network opens up, I'll maybe reevaluate that. It wasn't a huge priority so I have one of the slower chargers. Faster than a Bolt or Toyota, not nearly as fast as a Tesla or Hyundai. Major thing isn't really speed so much as reliability though hence why when Superchargers open up I might consider it. It's not such a huge issue more locally here in the Bay Area as it's very urbanized and there's another charger in 5-10 miles.... but you get out in flyover country where it's 50 miles between chargers and there's a good change you don't make it from one out of order charger to the next closest one. Tesla's network is way more reliable.
My 2011 Forester only has 72k miles on it, so sit tight and wait is also my plan. Subaru has announced they'll be coming out with 4 new EVs in 2026, which presumably will have the NACS (Tesla standard) charging ports. The opening up of Tesla Superchargers to non-Teslas will no doubt give the other networks a much-needed kick in the pants; they will have to improve their charger reliability in order to survive. And I'm seeing more chargers popping up in the more rural parts of my state (Nebraska); once those are reliable, when it's time to replace my current Subaru I'm hoping an EV version of the Forester will be taking its place in my condo garage!
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Now at $17k off, they're actually not a bad deal anymore - but that goes to show what it will take to move them... amazing.
