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Old 09-15-2023, 03:13 PM
 
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Many homes couldn't be sold with covid around. People didn't want to go house hunting then. I saw on the news there were landlords living in their cars because tenants didn't have to pay their rent and the landlords were not given the same help when it came to the taxes and mortgages as well as utilities bills also. I see why so many are now nearly doubling the rents. They have to make up for the loss and now try like heck to save up for the next FU to landlords in the next pandemic.

I am so glad I am not a landlord or tenant.

Unfortunately, i am not sure how it could be avoided somebody getting the 'FU" during the pandemic. Perhaps the question is did "mom and pop" (not including corporate) landlords get more than their fair share of 'FU"? Was there not supposed to be some sort gov program to compensate landlords affected ?



Here is an example of a business that stopped paying rent during the pandemic


https://www.sfchronicle.com/business...s-15221675.php
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Old 09-15-2023, 08:51 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Unfortunately, i am not sure how it could be avoided somebody getting the 'FU" during the pandemic. Perhaps the question is did "mom and pop" (not including corporate) landlords get more than their fair share of 'FU"? Was there not supposed to be some sort gov program to compensate landlords affected ?



Here is an example of a business that stopped paying rent during the pandemic


https://www.sfchronicle.com/business...s-15221675.php
The bolded is vaguely ringing a bell. I think what happened, is the corporate landowners (generally speaking, around the US, and certainly in Seattle) swooped down on the gov't handouts for small businesses and LL's, and snapped everything up, before the recipients for whom the program was intended were able to apply.
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Old 09-15-2023, 09:05 PM
 
Location: California
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They are due a party IMO
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Old 09-15-2023, 09:35 PM
 
Location: Elk Grove, CA
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Vaccines have been available since early 2021. The fact that there was a moratorium on evictions until last week is ****ing bonkers. But it's commie Berkeley, where folks feel that only the Politburo should own property. LoL. Intelligentsia
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Old 09-15-2023, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Elk Grove, CA
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I think Berkeley libs have to be the most entertaining. What's even funnier is they probably still don't realize they keep voting for this lol.


Berkeley landlord association throws party to celebrate restarting evictions

In a move that critics are calling “one of the most tasteless events I’ve ever heard of,” Berkeley landlords are celebrating the end of eviction protections in the East Bay city with a cocktail party.

The Berkeley Property Owners Association, a trade group for rental property owners in Berkeley, apparently believes regaining the right to throw people out of their homes is cause for celebration — or at least a networking event. The “Fall Social Mixer: Celebrating the End of the Eviction Moratorium” is set for the evening of Sept. 12; the event was first spotted by Berkeleyside.



BPOA claims renters abused the moratorium to weasel out of paying rent. “We make no qualms about celebrating the end of the eviction moratorium. We are celebrating the end of the tenants who could have paid rent, and chose not to,” BPOA President Krista Gulbransen told Berkeleyside.

Calling Berkeley Liberal is an insult to liberals, who believe in incremental change. Berkeley is hard-core socialist, borderline communist at this point. Liberal is like Boston or Santa Barbara.
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Old 09-16-2023, 09:32 AM
 
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Well considering only 2.5% of Berkeley residents are registered republicans I'd say it's a safe bet that the vast majority of BPOA members are your typical Berkeley lib. It's not like there is much ideological diversity in the city.
Kind of true but you left some stuff out, for instance - it appears that Berkeley has quite a bit of ideological diversity:

American Independent 1.2%
Democratic 75.7%
Green 1.2%
Libertarian 0.4%
No Party Preference 17.9%
Other 0.5%359
Peace and Freedom 0.4%
Republican 2.6%
And yes, that is a low number of republicans, but think about what a cluster the Republican house is and then ask yourself why would anyone support a party in such disarray? Bako Boy and Gaetz are about to start slapping each other for goodness sake!

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Old 09-16-2023, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Kind of true but you left some stuff out, for instance - it appears that Berkeley has quite a bit of ideological diversity:

American Independent 1.2%
Democratic 75.7%
Green 1.2%
Libertarian 0.4%
No Party Preference 17.9%
Other 0.5%359
Peace and Freedom 0.4%
Republican 2.6%
And yes, that is a low number of republicans, but think about what a cluster the Republican house is and then ask yourself why would anyone support a party in such disarray? Bako Boy and Gaetz are about to start slapping each other for goodness sake!
Quite a bit of diversity? That's what you got from that? I'd give you some partisan diversity, but unless the "no party preference" are overwhelmingly not leftist (considering that Biden won over 93% of the vote in Berkeley in 2020, that's not an assumption I'd make), still seems to be a huge lack of ideological diversity there. Hell, even if the no party preference were somehow all conservatives (not the case), you'd still have close to 80% of the electorate in Berkeley belonging to left leaning parties. Thus, the point made by the OP seems to be not out of order.

I honestly don't know why some choose to fight this point.
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Old 09-16-2023, 01:13 PM
 
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As with all these policies are based on the probability of getting re-elected.
Expecting anything like fairness and decency is just a fools folly.
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Old 09-16-2023, 02:02 PM
 
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Quite a bit of diversity? That's what you got from that? I'd give you some partisan diversity, but unless the "no party preference" are overwhelmingly not leftist (considering that Biden won over 93% of the vote in Berkeley in 2020, that's not an assumption I'd make), still seems to be a huge lack of ideological diversity there. Hell, even if the no party preference were somehow all conservatives (not the case), you'd still have close to 80% of the electorate in Berkeley belonging to left leaning parties. Thus, the point made by the OP seems to be not out of order.

I honestly don't know why some choose to fight this point.
I'm not the one fighting, but it does appear that you are.
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Old 09-16-2023, 07:51 PM
 
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I'm not the one fighting, but it does appear that you are.
If that's what you call questioning your interpretation of data that tend to show the opposite of what you're claiming . . .

A strange rebuttal all the same.
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