The Bay Area Soiled/Homeless/Infested/Trashed Containment Thread (San Jose: to live in, moving)

[sav858]

Originally Posted by goolsbyjazz

My wife and I actually loved the city when we visited two weeks ago. We are aware of the the issues (high cost of living, homelessness, etc.) but still felt it had enough charm and diversity to make it endearing. I know it may not look or feel like it did during the "heydays" of the 70s & 80s, but it still has enough beauty and charm to rank it among the nation's best, in my opinion.

I agree but I don't get this selective nostalgia some people have about the "heydays". SF lost population from the 60's through the 80's, that usually doesn't indicate a very nice or desirable city. So many neighborhoods were grimier and worse off in the 90's from what I remember. Somethings in SF have gotten worse but a lot of things/areas have gotten better too.

[Dave_n_Tenn]

Originally Posted by fluffythewondercat

What an incredibly effective news outlet Fox News must be to make the entire country believe SF has turned into a toilet for the homeless. I wonder how they do it.

They go to the border and interview children in concentration camps.

[evening sun]

I visit my old home town several times a year, it is nowhere near as bad as the CA Haters tell you. I prefer to make up my own mind, not be dictated to, by some news outlet. My sister came a to visit a few months ago & we had a great 3 days in the CIty by the Bay.

[msgsing]

We go on a regular basis. Seems to be less homeless around compared to years past at least in the tourist areas. Disgusting? The history, architecture, unique neighborhoods and the views looking down to the bay. All so compelling and worthy of visiting.

[Darth Vespa]

Here's my take: A half dozen years ago, we moved to San Diego from the Midwest. We immediately fell in love with S.D. and never looked back. But, often locals would tell us that San Diego used to be so much better and bemoan all the negative changes (which, of course, we couldn’t see).

I think this “good 'ol days” thinking is just fairly universal. We had left Madison, WI, where we had lived thirty plus years. Like everyone else, we used to say that Madison used to be so much better . . . (but, truthfully, it was still a pretty good place).

Incidentally, we spent a week in San Francisco a month ago (our first visit) and loved it. This, after a recent visitor to S.D. told us that S.F. used to be so much better. So it goes.

[folkguitarist555]

Doesn't matter. The more well-to-do Californians continue to sell their exorbitantly priced homes and make a crapload of money...then go to someplace like Coeur d'Alene Idaho and buy a expensive house four times the amount that the locals could afford...this in turn will Jack up all the real estate in that neighborhood...beginning to render all those pre-existing homes to eventually be unaffordable.. to the middle class in the lower class locals.. this is an epidemic that Californians are spreading across America like a wildfire. Californians and New Yorkers are 90% guilty for turning America into an unaffordable place whereby housing becomes out of the reach of the middle class and the lower classes locals. the last thing the rest of America wants is for Californians and for New Yorkers to invade their cities and states. Obviously there's no way to stop this so it is what it is..but buckle up...with the continued mass invasion of Californians and New Yorkers with big bucks...even the most remote and rural areas America will be unaffordable to most Americans... And homelessness will continue to skyrocket everywhere in America.

[folkguitarist555]

Californians and New Yorkers failed to stand up against their policy makers and local politicians..to put a halt various things like higher property taxes, prices of goods and services, illegal immigrants taking over their schools in neighborhoods and etc. so they leave and bring the same outlooks and political perceptions to their new home in a new state. Eventually turning that state blue... And eventually turning that state into what exactly resembled their hometown where they left. This is the modern-day plague in America.

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by folkguitarist555

Doesn't matter. The more well-to-do Californians continue to sell their exorbitantly priced homes and make a crapload of money...then go to someplace like Coeur d'Alene Idaho and buy a expensive house four times the amount that the locals could afford...this in turn will Jack up all the real estate in that neighborhood...beginning to render all those pre-existing homes to eventually be unaffordable.. to the middle class in the lower class locals.. this is an epidemic that Californians are spreading across America like a wildfire. Californians and New Yorkers are 90% guilty for turning America into an unaffordable place whereby housing becomes out of the reach of the middle class and the lower classes locals. the last thing the rest of America wants is for Californians and for New Yorkers to invade their cities and states. Obviously there's no way to stop this so it is what it is..but buckle up...with the continued mass invasion of Californians and New Yorkers with big bucks...even the most remote and rural areas America will be unaffordable to most Americans... And homelessness will continue to skyrocket everywhere in America.

Well well well. Given that roughly ½ of all present Californians are transplants from east and midwest, imagine how long time Californians feel about the many more recent invaders.

Let alone how the Chumash and Yuroks feel.

As Ishi turns in his grave ...

[Tulemutt]

Originally Posted by folkguitarist555

Californians and New Yorkers failed to stand up against their policy makers and local politicians..to put a halt various things like higher property taxes, prices of goods and services, illegal immigrants taking over their schools in neighborhoods and etc. so they leave and bring the same outlooks and political perceptions to their new home in a new state. Eventually turning that state blue... And eventually turning that state into what exactly resembled their hometown where they left. This is the modern-day plague in America.

Lmfao ... Californians (and New Yorkers) elected their policy makers, bubba ... and re-elect most of them over and over.

Ever occur to you that most Californians feel differently than you ... and that’s their perogative? Or are you pretty sure we should adopt your Idaho ideologies?

[Dave_n_Tenn]

If your good with the outcome of your elections ... then bless your collective CA hearts. However don't be "offended" if others don't see it your way. Pretty simple... really.