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So you can slaughter a cow or a chicken, but shooting a fenced-in game animal is somehow "evil".
I think captive "hunting" is dumb to me because it is not really hunting but I don't see the problem here, unless you are trying to make one out of thin air. There is a market for captive "harvesting" (I mean, it is not REALLY hunting"), it is free market, it makes somebody happy while making somebody else money, and who does it hurt?
I can't think of a single reason why it should be illegal, especially when the game is raised right on the property and would't exist in nature otherwise.
Captive harvesting seems dumb and pointless to me but it shouldn't be outlawed IMHO. But that is how politics works. The majority opposes something and they oppress the minority as lont as the constitution doe not prohibit that oppression.
If you don't like it, change states. There will always be some state that allows captive harvesting for a guy in a wheelchair or with bad hips who can't walk far. He can take a vacation to that state and cull an animal on some guys property there.
I am glad that Rhode Island can set its own laws and glad that residents can choose to stay or to leave.
The carnivores in this forum can't seem to comprehend their hypocrisy. Their fried chicken is a product of cruelty and suffering beyond that of any form of hunting.
The carnivores in this forum can't seem to comprehend their hypocrisy. Their fried chicken is a product of cruelty and suffering beyond that of any form of hunting.
Ain't that the truth.
And nobody cares about fish. Fish are ugly, so what the heck if you wreck their face with a hook, bash their heads and leave them squirming on a stringer all day long. But Bambi! Oh noes, don't shootz cute Bambi!!!!!
I am going to guess that game animals standing quietly in a fenced field are going to be more likely to die quickly and humanely from a heart shot from a scoped rifle resting on a fence post 50 yards away, than game animals in the mountains from some yahoo hunter who is too lazy to stalk an animal and then shoots it with a lousy shot in the gut from 300 yards off, and he is too lazy to track it so the animal suffers in pain for the next 2 days bleeding out, if it doesn't get ripped to shreds alive by some passing predator.
But I am not a hunter, so what do I know?
But the animal 300 yards off in the wild is much harder to hit, has a very realistic chance of escape because it's not fenced in, and through both instinct and environment, is conditioned to be alert and fearful and flee at the sign of anything that could be a potential threat (even the sound of a twig snapping). It has a very real chance of surviving unharmed. And of course, the hunter actually has to do the work to get within 300 yards of it. The fenced in animal cannot escape and was likely raised by people so it doesn't have the same self-preservation instincts. And there's certainly no guarantee of a "heart shot" even at 50 yards. It has zero chance of surviving and a high likelihood of a traumatic and prolonged end.
You could easily argue that both are wrong (and as a former hunter, I'd tend to agree). But I don't buy the argument that the fenced example is somehow more humane. Not even close. It also lacks any hint of challenge which is something that most hunters seek.
Make no mistake about it, there are very well known and maligned issues with the meat production industry. Unsanitary and inhumane conditions, cruel practices, etc., and many people are fighting to change that. But the fact that those cruel practices exist mean it should be OK to allow similar practices for recreational hunting. In addition, captive hunting prolongs the killing experience relative to meat production, and often leads to maiming and longer suffering before death. It's not exactly the same thing.
I don't think you even begin to understand the extent and duration of suffering endured by sentient animals in the meat and poultry industry. I'm guessing it's more likely that you'd rather not understand.
The carnivores in this forum can't seem to comprehend their hypocrisy. Their fried chicken is a product of cruelty and suffering beyond that of any form of hunting.
This is absolutely true. But while there's a whole lot of room for improvement, large scale food production is a necessary evil to feed the nation. Captive hunting is killing for pleasure and without any semblance of "sport." They are not the same thing.
But the animal 300 yards off in the wild is much harder to hit, has a very realistic chance of escape because it's not fenced in, and through both instinct and environment, is conditioned to be alert and fearful and flee at the sign of anything that could be a potential threat (even the sound of a twig snapping). It has a very real chance of surviving unharmed. And of course, the hunter actually has to do the work to get within 300 yards of it. The fenced in animal cannot escape and was likely raised by people so it doesn't have the same self-preservation instincts. And there's certainly no guarantee of a "heart shot" even at 50 yards. It has zero chance of surviving and a high likelihood of a traumatic and prolonged end.
You could easily argue that both are wrong (and as a former hunter, I'd tend to agree). But I don't buy the argument that the fenced example is somehow more humane. Not even close. It also lacks any hint of challenge which is something that most hunters seek.
Yes, the animal 300 yards off is so harder to hit. That is why there are so many more yahoos shooting at it and merely wouding it to die horribly over time, than marksmen who can make a 300 yard kill shot and humanely kill it down in a few minutes.
So what if a fenced in animal does not die immediately from a 50 yard shot. "Prolonged end". You have no clue what you are talking about. A fended animal has nowhere to hide. The shooter can immediately follow up and shoot the animal dead after a bad first shot. Unlike in the wild, where an animal that has his bleeding back leg smashed by the bullet from a bad shot, winds up having to drag that leg around for a couple of days in pain while the animal slowly and painfully bleeds out.
You don't get it.
Once again, a cow has no chance to escape the stockyard slaughterhouse either. Why is Bambi any different? Just "cuter"?
I have no clue how you people think. None at all. Feelings before logic.
This is absolutely true. But while there's a whole lot of room for improvement, large scale food production is a necessary evil to feed the nation. Captive hunting is killing for pleasure and without any semblance of "sport." They are not the same thing.
Except cheap meat made available by cruelty & suffering isn't a necessity evil. Just an evil.
This is absolutely true. But while there's a whole lot of room for improvement, large scale food production is a necessary evil to feed the nation. Captive hunting is killing for pleasure and without any semblance of "sport." They are not the same thing.
Really? "Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."........Albert Einstein.
Really? "Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on Earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet."........Albert Einstein.
While Einstein was a smart dude, is this an area in which he had notable expertise?
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