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Old 01-10-2024, 03:34 PM
 
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I'll choose not to reply with what I'm thinking.
AS IF there is any doubt whatsoever about what that is!
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Old 01-10-2024, 03:36 PM
 
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I am most fascinated with Thomas and the Mar Thoma Christians of Kerala, India. They have a church in Toronto now. I've only ever met one personally, though, when we both worked for a company owned by Satmar Chasidic Jews in Brooklyn.
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Old 01-11-2024, 09:55 AM
 
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No, direct consciousness-to-consciousness contact is devoid of any conversations. As I have said before, it is not remotely describable using words. We have no comparable referent to that kind of "knowing." The closest is the sense of "knowing" something in a dream that has no support in the content of the dream itself (if you have ever experienced it).
I've had many dreams like that. Just about every night in fact!
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Old 01-12-2024, 07:20 PM
 
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No, direct consciousness-to-consciousness contact is devoid of any conversations. As I have said before, it is not remotely describable using words. We have no comparable referent to that kind of "knowing." The closest is the sense of "knowing" something in a dream that has no support in the content of the dream itself (if you have ever experienced it).
In Enter the Dragon, Bruce Lee's character said that his fighting style is the art of fighting without fighting, which he demonstrated by not fighting. What you're saying here is that you have the act of knowing without knowing, which you demonstrated by not knowing.
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Old 01-12-2024, 07:28 PM
 
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In Enter the Dragon, Bruce Lee's character said that his fighting style is the art of fighting without fighting, which he demonstrated by not fighting. What you're saying here is that you have the act of knowing without knowing, which you demonstrated by not knowing.
I'm going to frame that one, lol.
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Old 01-12-2024, 09:48 PM
 
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In Enter the Dragon, Bruce Lee's character said that his fighting style is the art of fighting without fighting, which he demonstrated by not fighting. What you're saying here is that you have the act of knowing without knowing, which you demonstrated by not knowing.
Cute, but inaccurate indicating you seem to have some difficulties with reading comprehension and drawing analogies.
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:10 AM
 
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Cute, but inaccurate indicating you seem to have some difficulties with reading comprehension and drawing analogies.
Cute and more than just a little funny you must admit...
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:50 AM
 
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Cute and more than just a little funny you must admit...
Yes, we can be a very clever species using humor to avoid what we do not want to accept.
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Old 01-15-2024, 10:59 AM
 
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Yes, we can be a very clever species using humor to avoid what we do not want to accept.
Indeed. Just as we are a very clever species to rationalize our beliefs and opinions according to what we want or need, wish or feel, rather than accept what doesn't suit those desires. Very clever indeed. Or is it something having more to do with emotions rather than the truth of these matters? All too often with all too many, about all too many things, it's very hard to tell.
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Old 01-15-2024, 11:12 AM
 
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Indeed. Just as we are a very clever species to rationalize our beliefs and opinions according to what we want or need, wish or feel, rather than accept what doesn't suit those desires. Very clever indeed. Or is it something having more to do with emotions rather than the truth of these matters? All too often with all too many, about all too many things, it's very hard to tell.
You do seem to forget that I WAS an atheist with no "wants, needs, wishes, or feelings about a God" (in fact, the complete opposite) when I was "smacked upside my head" with the unmistakable reality of God. I spent decades resolving that reality, NOT confirming any preexisting "wants, needs, wishes, or feelings about a God."
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