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What I don't like about agnostics -- at least those who sort of brag about being one -- is that at some point one ought to take the evidence, pro and con, and make a decision about what is most logical to believe.
Wishy-washy. The Charlie Browns of religious belief and disbelief.
What I don't like about agnostics -- at least those who sort of brag about being one -- is that at some point one ought to take the evidence, pro and con, and make a decision about what is most logical to believe.
I don't think I've ever really viewed someone as bragging about being one. That's just a weird perspective. And no, I don't think they're wishy-washy (what I think you're alluding to them being). How do you know they have stopped gathering evidence? What is this time limit you are trying to impose? Why is there a time limit in the first place?
If you're impatient, and just hell-bent on coming to a conclusion and the conclusion is the most important thing to you, instead of the deliberate, conscientious, unraveling, unfolding, peeling back layers, weighing things, contemplating, pondering, looking at things through many lenses such as scientific, mathematical, supernaturally (things that are perhaps outside of physical reality that may exist), just on and on and on.... If that is not where your interest lies, and your interest lies only in getting quickly to a conclusion, then the "mysteries of the universe" is probably not the topic for you.
How about atheists who despise those who don't agree with their "superior" knowledge.
Being an atheist requires a leap of faith. Its just that many of you refuse to acknowledge it.
How did we get here? The universe just all popped into existence? Maybe you believe that, but that is a leap of faith into something you have no way of knowing.
Maybe you believe in your religion, but that is a leap of faith into something you have no way of knowing.
John Lennon felt the same way you did. So did the Marxists. And we got Stalin and Pol Pot and Mao Tse Tung.
Look at the history of what happened in the monotheistic era that preceded Christianity if you think people would be better and nicer without religion.
I’m not sure John Lennon felt the same way about religion, despite what he may have sung about, he was non-committal about his beliefs.
He also said the Beatles were bigger than Jesus Christ back in the 1960s, which was not exactly an untruth at the time. (although he was later forced to retract those comments)
A lot has changed since 1980 too, when he was shot dead by a man who cited those comments as well.
Religion is very different to music eras though, and fashion etc, as the various holy books simply do not change with the times.
Having no faith is literally the definition of not requiring a leap of faith. But you go on thinking that, champ.
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How did we get here? The universe just all popped into existence? Maybe you believe that, but that is a leap of faith into something you have no way of knowing.
I have no idea why existence exists. Anything I could come up with would just be pure speculation. And that's why I'm an atheist. I don't just accept some traditional cultural answer from the iron ages, as being the truth of life and all existence.
Having no faith is literally the definition of not requiring a leap of faith. But you go on thinking that, champ.
I have no idea why existence exists. Anything I could come up with would just be pure speculation. And that's why I'm an atheist. I don't just accept some traditional cultural answer from the iron ages, as being the truth of life and all existence.
So, you don’t know but God is not a possibility?
So, you don’t know but God is not a possibility?
A universe creating God (Like, Thomas Jefferson's Deism), is a possibility. I see no evidence for it over any other possibility. I can accept something being possible without having faith in it- what a concept.
Your nonsense Christian God with self-contradicting properties, though, is not real. By logic or observation.
A universe creating God (Like, Thomas Jefferson's Deism), is a possibility. I see no evidence for it over any other possibility. I can accept something being possible without having faith in it- what a concept.
Your nonsense Christian God with self-contradicting properties, though, is not real. By logic or observation.
Traditional Christian theodicy says that god is all knowing, all powerful and all good.
All three of these things cannot be true if god allows evil to exist.
If god is unaware of evil, he isn't all knowing.
If he's aware and cares but cannot act, then he isn't all powerful.
If he's aware and does not act, he isn't all good.
That's the Cliff's Notes version anyway.
Perhaps you are willing to throw one of these attributes under the bus?? If not then your god is logically contradictory.
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