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Old 01-30-2023, 02:09 PM
 
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A lot? A LOT? How many is a LOT?

You seem to base your decisions on a 'few'; not a LOT.

Are there "a LOT" of people in prison right now? Are there "a LOT" of men who lie to women to get sex?

Why do some suppose Christians behave this way?

Ya got me...

WHY some people behave this way is because of free will. Many of them figure that nothing bad will happen to them if they do what they know to be wrong. And some, don't even think they're doing anything wrong. Think of all the 'Karen's' in the world!

One reason why I like the Genesis story about Adam and Eve, is because it really depicts how us...as humans...have this...this...this 'ego' thing going on.

Why do SOME Christians behave this way?

Cuz they ain't Christians in the first place.
What does Jesus command us to do in Mark 16:15?
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Old 01-30-2023, 02:20 PM
 
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What does Jesus command us to do in Mark 16:15?
Spread the Good News to all God's creatures. What Comfort (and most Christians) spread is not REMOTELY Good News!!!
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Old 01-30-2023, 02:36 PM
 
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What does Jesus command us to do in Mark 16:15?
US? Or the apostles?
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Old 01-30-2023, 02:49 PM
 
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Spread the Good News to all God's creatures. What Comfort (and most Christians) spread is not REMOTELY Good News!!!

What did Jesus mean when he said, "He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned." Don't hedge, Mystic. Be specific.
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Old 01-30-2023, 02:50 PM
 
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Too long? It's an easy read. God, how lazy can a person get?
Be careful not to interpret disinterest as laziness. If you talk about oranges and I'm not particularly interested in oranges, you might want to make it engaging for those who aren't naturally curious about oranges. The visuals were a draw, but the subject doesn't really say, "Hey, you should read this!"
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Old 01-30-2023, 02:52 PM
 
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US? Or the apostles?

That goes back to the question I asked earlier: should Christian just ignore Mark 16:15?
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Old 01-30-2023, 03:10 PM
 
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195:9.9 (2083.5) Christianity has dared to lower its ideals before the challenge of human greed, war-madness, and the lust for power; but the religion of Jesus stands as the unsullied and transcendent spiritual summons, calling to the best there is in man to rise above all these legacies of animal evolution and, by grace, attain the moral heights of true human destiny.

195:9.10 (2083.6) Christianity is threatened by slow death from formalism, overorganization, intellectualism, and other nonspiritual trends. The modern Christian church is not such a brotherhood of dynamic believers as Jesus commissioned continuously to effect the spiritual transformation of successive generations of mankind.

195:9.11 (2083.7) So-called Christianity has become a social and cultural movement as well as a religious belief and practice. The stream of modern Christianity drains many an ancient pagan swamp and many a barbarian morass; many olden cultural watersheds drain into this present-day cultural stream as well as the high Galilean tablelands which are supposed to be its exclusive source.

195:10.19 (2086.5) If Christianity could only grasp more of Jesus’ teachings, it could do so much more in helping modern man to solve his new and increasingly complex problems.

195:10.20 (2086.6) Christianity suffers under a great handicap because it has become identified in the minds of all the world as a part of the social system, the industrial life, and the moral standards of Western civilization; and thus has Christianity unwittingly seemed to sponsor a society which staggers under the guilt of tolerating science without idealism, politics without principles, wealth without work, pleasure without restraint, knowledge without character, power without conscience, and industry without morality.

195:10.21 (2086.7) The hope of modern Christianity is that it should cease to sponsor the social systems and industrial policies of Western civilization while it humbly bows itself before the cross it so valiantly extols, there to learn anew from Jesus of Nazareth the greatest truths mortal man can ever hear—the living gospel of the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man.

https://www.urantia.org/urantia-book...fter-pentecost
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Old 01-30-2023, 03:44 PM
 
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Oh good. Now we have the Urantia thrown in. Let's also bring in the Book of Xanadu, and some circus midgets and popcorn.
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Old 01-30-2023, 03:49 PM
 
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What did Jesus mean when he said, "He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned." Don't hedge, Mystic. Be specific.
Damned simply means facing negative consequences. Our ancestors believed that all negative consequences were from the wrath of God. We know better. Any negative spiritual consequences will be the result of what we BECOME as Spirits, not a punishment from a displeased God.

God sent Jesus so we would know He was NEVER displeased with us but that we still needed to avoid any negative spiritual consequences by believing Jesus and following His instructions to love God and each other every day and repent when we fail.

Baptism is a commitment to follow Jesus's instruction, that's all. It is not some magic ritual that imparts some supernatural nonsense. The Good News is that because Jesus became one of us, humanity is saved from permanent separation from God! His birth as a human is the "Good tidings of Great Joy to all people." The angels appeared at His birth, NOT His crucifixion!

That God came in the flesh is the actual Gospel that we are to spread. But our fearful and indoctrinated ancestors simply did not believe that God IS AGAPE LOVE as Jesus represented Him, so they interpreted what happened to Jesus according to their wrathful and vengeful God who needed to be appeased by blood sacrifices. The rest is history!

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Old 01-30-2023, 04:35 PM
 
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Be careful not to interpret disinterest as laziness. If you talk about oranges and I'm not particularly interested in oranges, you might want to make it engaging for those who aren't naturally curious about oranges. The visuals were a draw, but the subject doesn't really say, "Hey, you should read this!"

Doesn't make a hell of a lot of sense, tree. How does one comment on a post they aren't even aware of its contents?
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