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your gambling system as described in your own posts is to "play the odds" and "always only" stop after losing $300. you have faith and belief in your system. posts describe you have faith and belief that your system is "better" than other systems used by other gamblers. posts indicate that for you using your system is "fun" and brings you enjoyment.
Like when the dealer is showing a breaking hand, and I have one too, I'll pass...
regarding bold above, to equate gambling at the craps table with engaging in a path of religion and spirituality, well that right there is a glaring example of what post above calls "misunderstanding of the basics." a path of religion and spirituality is not gambling nor is it a game of playing the odds. or in words of the post above "more than a little confusion" about what is not understood.
Allow me to clarify here...
I'm comparing the rationale of some gamblers with the rationale of some religious people. Rationale I have come to learn over the course of many years of talking to gamblers and religious people. Plus comments posted in this forum.
good point, and yeah, i was wondering the same thing. actually from the thread title, that's what i thought the thread would be addressing, how gambling is viewed in different paths of religion and spirituality. that would have some relevant content and be interesting.
Tzap and I agreed on something. The second time hell froze over recently!
Allow me to clarify here...I'm comparing the rationale of some gamblers with the rationale of some religious people. Rationale I have come to learn over the course of many years of talking to gamblers and religious people. Plus comments posted in this forum.
and i am pointing out the faith, belief, ritual you yourself fervidly adhere to and yet at the same time continue to fault others for.
True, and of course it can get a little complicated when it comes to what makes people "tick." Whether they be gamblers or religious people. To your first point, for example, I think many gamblers don't really understand the statistics. The odds that determine whether a bet is better or worse than other bets. There are all kinds of ways to bet while playing craps, for example, that offer horrible odds of winning but a big payout. Other bets that provide the best odds a casino has to offer. If you know how to properly place those bets.
Same sort of thing when playing black jack. Some people play and for good money even though they don't know how! Also interesting that some will express an interest in learning how to play better. Others don't want to know! They have their own personal "system" or whatever else they want to call it. Talk about a good way to lose money. Their money however...
As compared to some religious thinking (which is what this thread was meant to be about), it is interesting to note what some people will think, believe and do no matter the facts of these matters. Like some gamblers, it's more about how they are feeling. Their sense of when they will be lucky, regardless the odds. Somewhat irrational to put it another way.
Reminds me of the old advice about investing too. Don't let emotions get the better of you. Especially if you are losing! Being able to "walk away" (from whatever should be avoided) is also key. AKA cutting your losses.
Emotions are tricky. I think it depends on many factors with the most important one being a person's constitution. Generally, I am an apprehensive person and I didn't know this until somebody told me. Now I take mental steps to bring it down a couple of notches and I also have an idea of when to interject into a conversation and how to. This is simply creating well-defined boundaries that are tailored for me. I didn't do any of this alone but with the guidance of others and I have been very lucky with the people who have entered my life.
"Walking away" required instruction just as much as how to interact. Not only do I have to decide when to walk away but I also had to have the ability to walk away. That requires access to resources. If I walk away from my religious community, I am not just walking away from a book, or a person who speaks the words of a book, or a building that houses the book. I am walking away from a community - something much more complex than a casino.
Emotions are tricky. I think it depends on many factors with the most important one being a person's constitution. Generally, I am an apprehensive person and I didn't know this until somebody told me. Now I take mental steps to bring it down a couple of notches and I also have an idea of when to interject into a conversation and how to. This is simply creating well-defined boundaries that are tailored for me. I didn't do any of this alone but with the guidance of others and I have been very lucky with the people who have entered my life.
"Walking away" required instruction just as much as how to interact. Not only do I have to decide when to walk away but I also had to have the ability to walk away. That requires access to resources. If I walk away from my religious community, I am not just walking away from a book, or a person who speaks the words of a book, or a building that houses the book. I am walking away from a community - something much more complex than a casino.
Lessons I'm sure you are able to apply "in spades" here in this forum. Good for you...
How about Pascal’s wager?
Haven’t you given any consideration in learning it? I mean, you are an expert gambler after all.
I guess you didn't bother to read my comment #45?
I'm not sure where, when or how I became an "expert gambler," but I know that compared to many other gamblers, I understand the basics well enough to avoid making the bad bets they are making. In the same way, just because I make an effort to drink clean water and avoid dirty water, I'm not sure this makes me an expert on water.
The bible affirms that there is no randomness or coincidence and that God controls the dice as the sovereign creator of the universe
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