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Slavery existed in this nation/colonies for 200+ years, too...until it was changed.
About 80 years, actually. It's been outlawed about twice that long now.
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Same can be said for interracial marriage.
Yes. Between 1 man and 1 woman. That is the most basic definition of "marriage". Words have meanings. And even then, was there ever a federal law that dictated it was wrong?
About 80 years, actually. It's been outlawed about twice that long now.
Yes. Between 1 man and 1 woman. That is the most basic definition of "marriage". Words have meanings. And even then, was there ever a federal law that dictated it was wrong?
The first slave came to a colony in America in 1619 in Jamestown.
The first slave came to a colony in America in 1619 in Jamestown.
Laws change because people and cultures change.
It wasn't America in 1619. You realize that, right? America started in 1776. Perhaps your argument should be with Britain, as we were British colonies before 1776. Slavery was abolished in 1865 nationwide, and it ended much earlier than that in many states. Importing slaves from foreign countries was abolished in 1800 by an act of Congress, or a stronger law in 1808.
In any event, it's a detestable practice, and no one is defending it. But this is kind of off-topic, as you usually take these conversations. I have given you facts, and I'm certain you'll continue to whine about them as somehow untrue. But I'm done.
It wasn't America in 1619. You realize that, right? America started in 1776. Perhaps your argument should be with Britain, as we were British colonies before 1776. Slavery was abolished in 1865 nationwide, and it ended much earlier than that in many states. Importing slaves from foreign countries was abolished in 1800 by an act of Congress, or a stronger law in 1808.
In any event, it's a detestable practice, and no one is defending it. But this is kind of off-topic, as you usually take these conversations. I have given you facts, and I'm certain you'll continue to whine about them as somehow untrue. But I'm done.
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? My post said: "Slavery existed in this nation/colonies for 200+ years, too...until it was changed."
Slavery laws in the United States evolved directly from slavery practices and laws in the 13 original colonies (ever heard of the 13 original colonies?), often supported by christians and christian churches.
But here's your problem -- you only like the laws you like. Well, guess what...you're not the only living person in the United States, and your religion doesn't dictate what American law is.
And btw, you said you weren't going to engage with me...several times.
Marriage was actually created as 1 man, 1 woman, and it existed that way in this nation for 200+ years until it was changed.
Nope. It was not illegal until the Edmunds Anti-Polygamy Act of 1882 was passed.
But I understand that your fundamentalist viewpoint would think otherwise.
Back on topic, the Pope did not endorse polygamy, he told Catholic parents not to condemn children that are gay. That is a humanist viewpoint, and it doesn't matter what religion one is to understand that is the only correct viewpoint to have.
Any religion or sect that teaches otherwise certainly does not care about other human beings.
It wasn't America in 1619. You realize that, right? America started in 1776. Perhaps your argument should be with Britain, as we were British colonies before 1776. Slavery was abolished in 1865 nationwide, and it ended much earlier than that in many states. Importing slaves from foreign countries was abolished in 1800 by an act of Congress, or a stronger law in 1808.
In any event, it's a detestable practice, and no one is defending it. But this is kind of off-topic, as you usually take these conversations. I have given you facts, and I'm certain you'll continue to whine about them as somehow untrue. But I'm done.
You realize that borh Britain and the British Empire outlawed slavery before your civil war?
And the Pope was addressing Catholics aroubd the Workd not just in the United States? Other countries legalized same sex marriage before your country and others still have not.
Marriage being between one man and one woman sounds like tour religion influenced the laws. Laws to prohit polygomy where made as anti Mormon views and the native Americans did have polygomy and probably same sex marriages in some tribes. However because tgey were neither white nor Christain they did not count. Unfortuantely also true for Canada , New Zealand and Australia with their original peoples.I
The marriage between one man and one woman sounds like Christain religious influence. Maybe that too was the fault if the British?
Marriages were contracts between two families to enrich each other. The parents wanted grandchildren to inherit the lands.
Yes fundamentalists always claim marriage is about sex and procreation which it actually originated as an economic arrangement to regulate the inheritance of property and land. It also was fundamentally a secular institution. The secular authorities issue marriage licenses, and authorize the clergy (among others, including secular officials) to officiate at weddings.
Marriage is not a religious institution, it is secular and religion is involved only at the pleasure of the state. If you don't believe me, imagine what would happen if a member of the clergy pronounced someone man and wife without a marriage license issued by the state. It would be both ineffective and illegal.
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