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Old 01-30-2022, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Northeastern US
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Helps me to have more tranquility and less fear that even though life will have it challenges, God will make it right. This helps me to keep my focus and be more useful to others, instead of worrying or stressing over things that cannot be controlled.
In truth, regardless of belief, it is counterproductive for anyone to stress over what is not in their control.

The problem for me came in imagining god was in control of things, which ultimately did not prove to be the case. So expecting to be exempt from the "unthinkable" and then obliged to experience, remember and think it, is problematic. Until that happens though, sure, the idea that god has you in his back pocket can be comforting.

Until recently in this country there were so many lucky and privileged people that it was pretty easy to give god credit for your overall good fortune and rationalize the occasional exceptions to god's discipline, "testing" or "mysterious ways" / blessings in disguise, etc. I often wonder as the middle class disappears and the world slips into a more general dystopia, how well that will hold up.
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Old 01-30-2022, 08:18 AM
 
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Helps me to have more tranquility and less fear that even though life will have it challenges, God will make it right. This helps me to keep my focus and be more useful to others, instead of worrying or stressing over things that cannot be controlled.
When I look at all the people suffering with hunger or disease, the idea that god will "make it right" seems like a fantasy of the people who have a pretty good life to begin with (at least for the most part).
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Old 01-30-2022, 08:38 AM
 
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When I look at all the people suffering with hunger or disease, the idea that god will "make it right" seems like a fantasy of the people who have a pretty good life to begin with (at least for the most part).
Those of us with privilege tend to be blind to it. People who are, e.g., poor, in dead end / front line jobs, can't make ends meet or have physical or mental challenges, cannot sustain a reasonable hope of god, themselves or anything or anyone else "making things right". They are systematically mired in their circumstances and unlikely to rise above them, even though we don't have the additional burden of, say a caste system to make it even harder. Though I'd argue that the popularity of victim-blaming in our society serves much the same purpose.

Occasionally someone is violently severed from privilege and illustrates that principle. My wife just shared with me the story of a lovely young girl working her way through college as a dog walker. She was approaching graduation, had a steady boyfriend, all the trappings. And then she showed up at a new customer's house and had her face ripped off by the two dogs there, and now faces a lifetime of disability and social limitations. I have no clue whether she felt god was in control of her life but if she thought that before she surely can't now. Pesky ol' reality butting in again.
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Old 01-30-2022, 08:45 AM
 
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When people say that "God will make it right", I think they just forget to add "in heaven."
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Old 01-30-2022, 09:22 AM
 
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When people say that "God will make it right", I think they just forget to add "in heaven."
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Old 01-30-2022, 10:10 AM
 
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But, guess what, since some have a bad reaction ...
I won't be sharing anything like this again answering a question for the op.
Better not to rock the boat...like standing up ---''Look the sun finally!!! YAY!"
Not good.
Sorry to read this.
I thank you for your wonderful posts.
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Old 01-30-2022, 10:53 AM
 
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When people say that "God will make it right", I think they just forget to add "in heaven."
Yes that is definitely one workaround. You can rationalize some nonzero amount of injustice, lack of closure, tragic loss or whatever, by displacing it into an imagined afterlife. And the beauty of that is when it turns out there's no afterlife, you won't even know it.
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Old 01-30-2022, 10:54 AM
 
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Sorry to read this.
I thank you for your wonderful posts.
Ditto, Miss H.!!
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Old 01-30-2022, 12:23 PM
 
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Yes that is definitely one workaround. You can rationalize some nonzero amount of injustice, lack of closure, tragic loss or whatever, by displacing it into an imagined afterlife. And the beauty of that is when it turns out there's no afterlife, you won't even know it.
Yup.
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Old 01-30-2022, 01:56 PM
 
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Yes that is definitely one workaround. You can rationalize some nonzero amount of injustice, lack of closure, tragic loss or whatever, by displacing it into an imagined afterlife. And the beauty of that is when it turns out there's no afterlife, you won't even know it.
Or, you will be surprised to learn how the Divine actually managed it all!
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