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Old 02-22-2022, 08:37 AM
 
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I can't think of a single instance where a Biblical promise was kept--in any way that be conclusively demonstrated, that is.

The promises made about Jesus were correct. The kingdom promises will come soon.
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Old 02-22-2022, 09:25 AM
 
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There are people who love God, these people see God's love all around them. The fulfillment of God's promises is certain.

There are others though, who do not see any of this. Their attitude is often such that prohibits them from seeing any of it.

When someone says that they do not see, I must agree. That individual will not see.

It serves no purpose to argue with someone who insists they can not see God's love.
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Old 02-26-2022, 11:26 AM
 
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I can't think of a single instance where a Biblical promise was kept--in any way that be conclusively demonstrated, that is.
The question is always how to interpret what the promise means, and who and to how it is applied.

There are many very detailed, elaborate, lavish promises of divine largesse for the faithful. When an individual life happens to align with these promises, it can always be claimed that the promise was fulfilled for them, because this person was sufficiently pious / observant / worthy; when it doesn't happen, it is never god's fault somehow.

That is why general promises of nonspecific "blessing" (blessed are peace-makers, god blesses the righteous and confounds the wicked) are basically meaningless; something as innocuous as being employed or in good health or having love in your life could be styled as "god's blessing". So it is no real incentive to goodness. In any case, REAL goodness is what you practice when there's nothing in it for you.

It is also clear that often enough in life, the wicked prosper and the good are confounded. Right now there are plenty of perfectly saintly people suffering terribly in places like Ukraine and Yemen and Palestine. And there are evil sociopaths prospering off their suffering, too.

So all of these claims of "fulfilled promises" are very much like claims of "fulfilled prophecies" -- our eager pattern-matching brains can easily map random events to these "fulfillments" we are claiming.

If the Bible promised something unambiguous, such as that EVERY person who places ANY level of trust in god will always get a free car that never wears out unless they renounce their faith, at which point it quits working or turns into a pumpkin, then that would be easily verified empirical proof of the promises of god.

As it is, we ultimately have nothing but anecdotes and campfire stories, as usual.
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Old 02-26-2022, 05:52 PM
 
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I find the promise of Matthew 5:5 ( humble meek people to inherit the Earth ) is in reference to Psalm 37:9-11.
In order for meek people to inherit the Earth we need to ask God in prayer for Jesus to come ! - Rev. 22:20
Come and bring ' healing ' for earth's nations - Rev. 22:2
Healing to the point that No one will say, " I am sick....." - Isaiah 33:24
Come so Earth and its people will be healthy as described in Isaiah 35th chapter.
Come and bring an end to ' enemy death ' on Earth as found at 1st Cor. 15:24-26; Isaiah 25:8
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