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Well yes, that was my point. Religion is a big power game. It stinks to high heaven (no pun intended).
To use an analogy: I'm not against female mafia bosses, but shouldn't we try to get rid of the mafia instead of complaining that too few women are mob bosses?
Well yes, that was my point. Religion is a big power game. It stinks to high heaven (no pun intended).
To use an analogy: I'm not against female mafia bosses, but shouldn't we try to get rid of the mafia instead of complaining that too few women are mob bosses?
A closer analogy would be "Shouldn't we try to get rid of Italians in order to get rid of the Mafia?"
I am not sure what this means. It is an interesting coinage though.
Well thank you, but I would not state this to tickle ears. 'Fruitage' would be a figurative statement that indicates the kind of conduct or reputation a person might be known for, as you would not knowingly partake from a tree that also is known for its bad 'fruit'.
"...or any genuine spiritual guidance... spritual values."
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More stuff I don't understand. I have never seen a good explanation for the concept of 'spiritual', or how it can be guided...
Spirituality unlike physicality, relates to the spirit or soul. Spirit is what gives us our life force. There are persons that exist* without the need for physical bodies: Almighty God, Jesus, the Angeles and yes, The Devil and his minions that reside with and control earthly society for the time being.
To guide some one spiritually would entail educational study and counsel about matters that would concern the God or non-physical deity one would be serving. In the case with Christians, that would be Jesus father, Almighty God. Typically, this is done with the Bible serving as primary textbook.
*Think of how some invisible things exist without physical form: Electricity, wind, thought, gravity...
Spirituality unlike physicality, relates to the spirit or soul. Spirit is what gives us our life force. There are persons that exist* without the need for physical bodies: Almighty God, Jesus, the Angeles and yes, The Devil and his minions that reside with and control earthly society for the time being.
To guide some one spiritually would entail educational study and counsel about matters that would concern the God or non-physical deity one would be serving. In the case with Christians, that would be Jesus father, Almighty God. Typically, this is done with the Bible serving as primary textbook.
*Think of how some invisible things exist without physical form: Electricity, wind, thought, gravity...
Electricity, wind, thoughts, and gravity are most certainly physical. There is nothing "spiritual" about those things.
"Spiritual" or "supernatural" things are physical and natural things which we don't yet fully understand.
Spirituality unlike physicality, relates to the spirit or soul. Spirit is what gives us our life force. There are persons that exist* without the need for physical bodies: Almighty God, Jesus, the Angeles and yes, The Devil and his minions that reside with and control earthly society for the time being.
To guide some one spiritually would entail educational study and counsel about matters that would concern the God or non-physical deity one would be serving. In the case with Christians, that would be Jesus father, Almighty God. Typically, this is done with the Bible serving as primary textbook.
*Think of how some invisible things exist without physical form: Electricity, wind, thought, gravity...
Electricity is the word we use to describe the movement of electrons. Although tiny, they are physical.
Wind is the movement of air, which is primarily nitrogen and oxygen. There are a few other things included, but we are still talking about molecules. Once again, tiny items, but physical.
Thought is a bit different. everything we know about thought indicates that it is the product of a living brain. While I cannot point to pieces of thought, I can point to its source and location. Thought appears to be an emergent property of brains, in the same way 'wet' is an emergent property of water, which is simply a combination of hydrogen and oxygen, neither of which we would describe as wet. Regardless, thought can be regarded as physical in that it is the interplay of chemicals in the brain.
Gravity. Once again, this is grounded in the physical. Gravity is a property of mass. No physical mass, no gravity.
Your analogy fails badly, in that you are trying to demonstrate a non-physical thing such as the spirit/soul by pointing to physical things, and claiming it is just like them. It isn't.
I don't find this convincing at all, and once again find myself mystified at the concept is spirituality. It is simply a label people place on things that don't exist, cannot be explained, yet seems to be valued by the religious for absolutely no good reason.
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