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No, I'm stating that none of Jesus' alleged miracles, performances, virgin birth, death, and rising are not exclusive to him and are word for word copies of earlier "messiahs".
Not if there is verifiable evidence to support the 'hearsay', which in the case of Jesus....there isn't!
and verifying that evidence would only come from more hearsay..unless you found the evidence yourself...barring the possibility that the evidence wasn't in its original form made from hearsay..nor made up..nor wrong..which i believe would be impossible to decipher
No, I'm stating that none of Jesus' alleged miracles, performances, virgin birth, death, and rising are not exclusive to him and are word for word copies of earlier "messiahs".
youre right in that these are alleged...he could have merely used "magic" tricks...or used people to pretend they are ill so he could say he cured them..but this doesn't disprove his existance...also you don't seem to know the meaning of a messiah...the word means deliverer...but its used as the one who will save us from sin...and all of these alleged things that jesus did are said to be signs of the messiah in the prophecies of the messiah
Ah yes! Old Josephus is dragged out again. The piece in Josephus' Annuls is accepted by both secular and religious historians as a "Christian forgery".
Ah yes! Old Josephus is dragged out again. The piece in Josephus' Annuls is accepted by both secular and religious historians as a "Christian forgery".
lol ok...but why is this..sorry i didn't mean to drag out old fake josephus again....i just googled for an account of jesus
youre right in that these are alleged...he could have merely used "magic" tricks...or used people to pretend they are ill so he could say he cured them..but this doesn't disprove his existance...also you don't seem to know the meaning of a messiah...the word means deliverer...but its used as the one who will save us from sin...and all of these alleged things that jesus did are said to be signs of the messiah in the prophecies of the messiah
There is one problem with the 'messiah prophecies' in the bible AT and that is, the only evidence we can find of it coming true is........the bible!
Also, if you look at the Jesus genealogies given by Luke, Jesus is not of royal descent and therefore does not fulfill the prophecy. The prophecy also say that the messiah would be called Emmanuel...which JC wasn't.
There is one problem with the 'messiah prophecies' in the bible AT and that is, the only evidence we can find of it coming true is........the bible!
Also, if you look at the Jesus genealogies given by Luke, Jesus is not of royal descent and therefore does not fulfill the prophecy. The prophecy also say that the messiah would be called Emmanuel...which JC wasn't.
and yet it this doesn't disprove his existence...i am neither limited to the ideals of the jews or christians.....i don't know why you guys are trying to know argue that even if he existed hes not the messiah....
i brought it up to explain why "the jesus figure" resembled other "messiahs"
but...he is atleast now called emmanuel...i remember a song i used to sing in church that called him emmanuel...and if hes decedent of god...i would certainly declare that royal
Ah yes! Old Josephus is dragged out again. The piece in Josephus' Annuls is accepted by both secular and religious historians as a "Christian forgery".
Sorry! That should have said Antiquities not Annuls.
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