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Ok. You have no time for scientology, but couldn't resist having a swipe at atheism as well.
I have nothing against atheism. I'll say the holy Trinity of shrugs:
Don't like same sex marriage? DON'T MARRY SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX!
Don't like pornography? DON'T WATCH PORNOGRAPHIC MOVIES!
Don't like religion? DON'T PRACTICE A RELIGION!
Simple as that. Atheism is fine...it's the preachy Dawkin's Witnesses I can't stand.
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Let me point out that. even if some atheists do hand out 'Why doesn't God heal amputees' leaflets (I wish I had one to proffer every time I get a tract shoved at me) it is not acting as insanely as the religious folk for this very important difference, which of course wouldn't have occurred to you -
atheists are handing out truth and reason. The religious are handing out myth and garbage.
Learn the difference.
So, in other words, you're religious views are right and everyone else is wrong? How is that not "cult like?"
And yes, I criticize any religion that believes it is the "one true religion." But as I've said there are only two religions that are really like that and devoid of any universalism: fundamentalist Christianity and Dawkin's witnessism.
And yes, my religion is based on Mythology...AND YOUR POINT?!
Hardcore Dawkin's worshipers are going to call anything but Dawkin's worship "a cult." Jews, Christians and others may disagree with another religion, but they will say honestly "this is a cult, this isn't."
And notice how you attack the source, but not what the source is saying. Classic fallacy.
Anyway, a cult is based on men (like Dawkins) while a religion is based on Myths (like Jesus, Buddha, etc) A cult is closed to the public (like Scientology) while religions are open to those who are interested (like Islam, Wicca etc) A cult hides its agenda and beliefs (like Scientology) while a religion is open...did you ever have Christian hide the book of Genesis?
IMO, R worship of any kind is cult like. Regardless the number, if its over two. I'm not sure what you're hoping to gain bringing up the French Revolution - when Catholics/Protestants owned everything, everybody and stole money creating chaos in France, which in turn created a revolt against the religious but I wouldn't have joined it then, I don't now. It doesn't change my stance. You fit the bill, IMO, then you do. The history of beliefs is large scale. Narrowing in on specifics is difficult. In general, I can think all denominations of religion are cult like if I want to. It's just my personal opinion. You never asked my personal opinion on wether atheists can go astray and form groups, do bad things. That is another thread idea for you, start a new thread and I'll meet you there.
Regarding fallacy, again ironic when reading your posts. What logic are you trying to convince me of regarding your "mythical God hovering around making sure you do it's work here on earth" being normal, whilst condemning the "mythical belief in life being reincarnated and alien attachment being valid" being abnormal?
Again, I SEE NO LOGIC IN EITHER. We will have to just agree to disagree. My advice, start some threads and stop highjacking this one. If you want to assume all atheists have a Dawkin complex that's your opinion. Not my biz. I've given my opinion to the op, next............
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Hardcore Dawkin's worshipers are going to call anything but Dawkin's worship "a cult." Jews, Christians and others may disagree with another religion, but they will say honestly "this is a cult, this isn't."
And notice how you attack the source, but not what the source is saying. Classic fallacy.
Anyway, a cult is based on men (like Dawkins) while a religion is based on Myths (like Jesus, Buddha, etc) A cult is closed to the public (like Scientology) while religions are open to those who are interested (like Islam, Wicca etc) A cult hides its agenda and beliefs (like Scientology) while a religion is open...did you ever have Christian hide the book of Genesis?
What the heck is a "Hardcore Dawkin's worshiper?" If you are talking about Richard Dawkins (not Dawkin's), why would anybody worship him? Because he's smart? He didn't invent anything. Although he is an excellent communicator, he isn't really speaking about anything revolutionary. BTW, WHO worships him?
I have nothing against atheism. I'll say the holy Trinity of shrugs:
Don't like same sex marriage? DON'T MARRY SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX! You left out, don't stop others from government acknowledgement and equal liberty and marriage rights, don't beat up others for marrying the same sex.
Don't like pornography? DON'T WATCH PORNOGRAPHIC MOVIES! You left out, don't stop others from enjoying a little ass.
Don't like religion? DON'T PRACTICE A RELIGION! You left out, don't harm others when not practicing it. Plenty of places left that do. Hence the activists
Simple as that. It's not that simple. Atheism is fine, atheism is not a proper noun...it's the preachy Dawkin's Witnesses I can't stand. So you can't stand certain people, doesn't surprise me. I don't agree with certain people either. Still, just an opinionated rant
So, in other words, you're religious views are right and everyone else is wrong? How is that not "cult like?"
And yes, I criticize any religion that believes it is the "one true religion." But as I've said there are only two religions that are really like that and devoid of any universalism: fundamentalist Christianity and Dawkin's witnessism. There are only two religions in your opinion that are really like that.
And yes, my religion is based on Mythology...AND YOUR POINT?!
Again, Mythology is an interesting read and study, but I don't think a religion should be made out of it either. I'd consider it cult like, just like the rest. This is my opinion, and only that of course.
As far as I know, there is no such thing as Dawkins fanboys. It's possible that victorianpunk is making up religions. It wouldn't be the first time one was created out of whole cloth.
As far as I know, there is no such thing as Dawkins fanboys. It's possible that victorianpunk is making up religions. It wouldn't be the first time one was created out of whole cloth.
I think it's funny that Victoranpunk believes that people who admire Dawkins are somehow worshipping him like he's a deity or has some mystical powers. If any such person in the world ever existed, they would no longer be an atheist. How is that not obvious to him?
I have nothing against atheism. I'll say the holy Trinity of shrugs:
Don't like same sex marriage? DON'T MARRY SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX!
Don't like pornography? DON'T WATCH PORNOGRAPHIC MOVIES!
Don't like religion? DON'T PRACTICE A RELIGION!
Simple as that. Atheism is fine...it's the preachy Dawkin's Witnesses I can't stand.
So, in other words, you're religious views are right and everyone else is wrong? How is that not "cult like?"
And yes, I criticize any religion that believes it is the "one true religion." But as I've said there are only two religions that are really like that and devoid of any universalism: fundamentalist Christianity and Dawkin's witnessism.
And yes, my religion is based on Mythology...AND YOUR POINT?!
Mine is based on sound reason and verified fact. Nice piccie by the way. A cult is perhaps best classified with the rather wide range of personally prized beliefs that are based on inadequate or invalid data. I am tolerant of preachies and ranters, so long as what they are saying is sound, based on sound reason and sound evidence and to the point. Dawkinsers are, Fundamentalists aren't.
IMO, R worship of any kind is cult like. Regardless the number, if its over two. I'm not sure what you're hoping to gain bringing up the French Revolution - when Catholics/Protestants owned everything, everybody and stole money creating chaos in France, which in turn created a revolt against the religious but I wouldn't have joined it then, I don't now. It doesn't change my stance. You fit the bill, IMO, then you do. The history of beliefs is large scale. Narrowing in on specifics is difficult. In general, I can think all denominations of religion are cult like if I want to. It's just my personal opinion.
And in my personal opinion Don Cheadle is light skinned and Will Chamberlain is a midget
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Regarding fallacy, again ironic when reading your posts. What logic are you trying to convince me of regarding your "mythical God hovering around making sure you do it's work here on earth" being normal, whilst condemning the "mythical belief in life being reincarnated and alien attachment being valid" being abnormal?
First, I started off by saying $cientology is not a cult because of its beliefs, but because of its structure. There are a growing number of scientologist who have left the "church" and broken off as independents, still believing in the ideas of Scientology but not giving money to David Miscavige and his corrupt organization for knowledge that should be free.
Second, yes, my God is mythological...and?
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Again, I SEE NO LOGIC IN EITHER. We will have to just agree to disagree. My advice, start some threads and stop highjacking this one. If you want to assume all atheists have a Dawkin complex that's your opinion. Not my biz. I've given my opinion to the op, next............
Other people (Dawkins witnesses) hijacked the thread by saying "wahh!!! All religions are cults and I'm a whiny emo kid" blah blah blah.
As far as I know, there is no such thing as Dawkins fanboys. It's possible that victorianpunk is making up religions. It wouldn't be the first time one was created out of whole cloth.
I think it's funny that Victoranpunk believes that people who admire Dawkins are somehow worshipping him like he's a deity or has some mystical powers. If any such person in the world ever existed, they would no longer be an atheist. How is that not obvious to him?
They may as well be the way they cling to him and his "ideas".
And I do not believe 100% that God does exist as a literal being...but that makes me a "cultist" I suppose
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whilst condemning the "mythical belief in life being reincarnated and alien attachment being valid" 
being abnormal? 
