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I am no scientist just a basic knowledge but a huge respecter.
I have never thought the Neanderthals were anything but human, living, surviving with limited adaptive skills because of the stage of development of their brains. Possibly they were open for invasion by other humans stronger than they were because of their reasoning and adaptive skills. Have always been very interested in everything about early man as his reasoning skills evolved.
Neandertals had their own technology and upon meeting with the more advanced technology of the Homo sapiens sapiens they copied it. Their brains' volume was superior to ours and there are no indications they were inferior to us as regards intelligence.
One factor to be taken into consideration when investigating their extinction and the causes of it is that Neandertals were probably living in small communities.
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A group size of 12 individuals at El Sidron is consistent with a previous estimate of 8–10 individuals per Neandertal group, based on the size of sleeping and combustion activity areas in the long-occupied rock shelter of Abric Romanà (Barcelona, Spain).
Small groups would have been vulnerable to hostile invaders but not to contagious diseases (small groups would have great problems, however, in circling and catching fast running rabbits ).
Now, I STRONGLY recommend you scroll past the first part of this video out-take, which carries some really quite disgusting script language, to the time marker 1:20. But then,.... from that point on, it's all yours, dtango!
BTW, I'm pretty sure that our ancient cousins, living in caves with an almost continuous state of starvation, didn't quietly ponder the ethics of cannibalism at all. If hungry enough, like any opportunistic omnivore (like bears, for instance...) they'd have eaten whatever wandered by, and since their once-easy supply of wooly mammoths had begun to die out, and they didn't have the smarts or the dexterity of our later Cro-Magnon cousins to catch those little pesky wabbits, why then... their slow extinction due to an entire marketplace of reasons, was pretty much inevitable.
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Just two insignificant points - Cro-Magnons were not human cousins, but rather modern humans. The differences aren't big enough to put them into a different subspecies.
And humans cannot live by rabbits alone - they're too lean, they don't contain enough of the essential fatty acids to sustain life. They would develop a condition known as "rabbit starvation" and eventually die if fattier foods were not consumed.
BTW, I'm pretty sure that our ancient cousins, living in caves with an almost continuous state of starvation, didn't quietly ponder the ethics of cannibalism at all. If hungry enough, like any opportunistic omnivore (like bears, for instance...) they'd have eaten whatever wandered by, and since their once-easy supply of wooly mammoths had begun to die out, and they didn't have the smarts or the dexterity of our later Cro-Magnon cousins to catch those little pesky wabbits, why then... their slow extinction due to an entire marketplace of reasons, was pretty much inevitable.
Perhaps I am the only one who sees it as such but I see it as a peaceful debate regarding Evolution, Intelligent Design and Creationism.
While it may appear to be a science related thread and it would be such in any other section, here it is open to theological and scientific views.
I feel this is the appropriate section even if it turns out some of us theists are not always anti scientific views.
The topic is a scientific one which has nothing to do with belief in God/gods or spirituality.I don't disagree with it or agree for that matter. I know evolution is the natural process that all life goes through. I don't understand why topics like these are on the Religion and Spirituality forum.
Now, I STRONGLY recommend you scroll past the first part of this video out-take, which carries some really quite disgusting script language, to the time marker 1:20. But then,.... from that point on, it's all yours, dtango!
That is very nice of you but I happen not to understand spoken English as well as written English (I taught my self English by reading books not by dating English speaking girls ) and thus I do not watch videos without subtitles.
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BTW, I'm pretty sure that our ancient cousins, living in caves with an almost continuous state of starvation, didn't quietly ponder the ethics of cannibalism at all. If hungry enough, like any opportunistic omnivore (like bears, for instance...) they'd have eaten whatever wandered by, and since their once-easy supply of wooly mammoths had begun to die out, and they didn't have the smarts or the dexterity of our later Cro-Magnon cousins to catch those little pesky wabbits, why then... their slow extinction due to an entire marketplace of reasons, was pretty much inevitable.
Cro-Magnon were not our cousins. They were Neandertal-Hss hybrids; they were us!
Wooly Mammoths went extinct approximately 10,000 years ago when the climate in Europe was almost the same as it was 30,000 ago but the temperature was RISING not falling, as was the case 30,000 years ago.
Homo sapiens sapiens drove to extinction both Neandertals and the mammoths.
Cro-Magnons were eating rabbits probably because that was all they could catch as they were scared ****less of the mammoths.
The topic is a scientific one which has nothing to do with belief in God/gods or spirituality.I don't disagree with it or agree for that matter. I know evolution is the natural process that all life goes through. I don't understand why topics like these are on the Religion and Spirituality forum.
Rifleman did very well in posting as he did. The Neandertals were the Nefilim of the Bible and the Israelites mentioned in the Bible were the Cro-Magnon-gods who exterminated the Near Eastern Neandertals.
The Frost-Giants on the Norse tradition were the North European Neandertals and the killer Aesir gods were the forefathers of the Germanic tribes.
The renowned Giants of the Greek mythology were the Neandertals of Southern Europe and the equally murdering gods of the Balkans and rest Europeans of the south were the forefathers of the lovely people inhabiting now the northern shores of the Mediterranean.
I expect that Rifleman will stop complaining that I am kidnapping his thread and will acknowledge the above.
The topic is a scientific one which has nothing to do with belief in God/gods or spirituality.I don't disagree with it or agree for that matter. I know evolution is the natural process that all life goes through. I don't understand why topics like these are on the Religion and Spirituality forum.
I can not speak for Rifleman, but I do know he has sufficient knowledge of science that if he had desired a pure scientific view he would have posted the thread in one of the Science oriented forums.
I also know he is intelligent enough to realize that by posting it in the Religion and spirituality forum he would be opening the door for the theological aspects to be discussed.
Speaking as a theist I find it interesting as I see it as a challenge to us theists. He has presented a scientific explanation for something some of us may have seen only from a theological view.
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