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I understand that...but where did they get the information as to what God's attitude is, or what God has or hasn't done, that they may or may not themselves think is "right"?
What God are they referring to? There are hundreds upon hundreds of them. How do they even know that God made it the way it is, or is capable of modifying it?
How do they know any these things? They certainly must know how God created things and that there is definitely the ability to revise it...or they would not be so upset and critical that God made things the way it is and/or doesn't change it.
That's along the lines of an all knowing, all powerful, all just, all perceiving kinda god. If someone believed in a god that wasn't all those things they wouldn't have to explain injustice.
Well, then...that describes the Abrahamic God Yahweh/Jehovah/Allah.
And the source of the information would be The Torah, The Bible, or The Koran.
So...why not say that, especially when asked specifically?
That would fill in lots of blanks and establish a basis for real discussion.
But for some reason, they prefer to be very evasive, intentionally vague (using just the descriptor/title "God"), and refuse to reference information sources.
Why do you think that is?
Well, then...that describes the Abrahamic God Yahweh/Jehovah/Allah.
And the source of the information would be The Torah, The Bible, or The Koran.
So...why not say that, especially when asked specifically?
That would fill in lots of blanks and establish a basis for real discussion.
But for some reason, they prefer to be very evasive, intentionally vague (using just the descriptor/title "God"), and refuse to reference information sources.
Why do you think that is?
I think they do. If anyone's concept of God is confusing it's yours. I read up on it so I see what's the idea is.
I think they do. If anyone's concept of God is confusing it's yours. I read up on it so I see what's the idea is.
My concept and perception of God (ALL) is probably the very oldest, and not "confusing" at all...but no longer very common.
Currently, and for the last thousand+ years ...the most common is the Abrahamic God Yahweh/Jehovah/Allah.
But for some reason...when all the arguments or questions are posed about "God"...those posing the argument/questions often do not want to specify the "God" they are referring to, or where/how they learned about this God.
You've been involved in several threads recently where I asked...and got nothing but intentional evasion and obfuscation.
How can a reasonable discussion/debate work off of that?
When I am asked something specific...I explain in as much detail as I possibly can...I don't try to dodge and refuse a straight answer.
When I learned how forgiveness can help release pent-up anger, mistrust, and fear, it did feel magical. It is understandable why religions or spiritual people would push the concept. Like any other abstract concept, sometimes telling another person to forgive is not enough but I know people try their best to help others.
When I learned how forgiveness can help release pent-up anger, mistrust, and fear, it did feel magical. It is understandable why religions or spiritual people would push the concept. Like any other abstract concept, sometimes telling another person to forgive is not enough but I know people try their best to help others.
What others call forgiveness I call letting go. I don’t always forgive (and I never forget), but I will relinquish the negative emotional energy that comes with holding a grudge. It’s the same thing, really.
What others call forgiveness I call letting go. I don’t always forgive (and I never forget), but I will relinquish the negative emotional energy that comes with holding a grudge. It’s the same thing, really.
Yes. I see how the two are related. Unfortunately, when I was a child and a young adult, it was very difficult to make those concepts relatable to me. I did not understand how to let things go. But now that I do, I see it was more complex than I could have imagined. Part of the solution was to not let certain personalities into my inner circle until we could understand one another better.
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