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Old 08-07-2007, 10:45 PM
 
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That's fine. We're not attacking you anyways. Go believe what you want.
Thank you.... And whether you believe now or later.. you will believe as well...



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For it is written: "As I live, says the LORD, Every knee shall bow to Me, And every tongue shall confess to God."
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:46 PM
 
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Thanks for the post Life... Great information! Thank the Lord our God for creationist! Finally scientist who are refuteing Darwin's wildly vivid imagination....
Sorry, but one has to actually use science to be called a scientist


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I AM NOT A DECENDENT OF AN APE!
I certainly hope you're not!
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:51 PM
 
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Glad to hear from you IBCWIFE,it seems like its been awhile.WELCOME BACK!
Thanks Noland... I appreciate that. It has been awhile. I have been honoring my husbands wishes regarding the use of my time. I thought I would get on for a minute and post on the thread about Kawg and I meeting on Saturday... That was two hours ago.. LOL.. but I haven't been on for a week or so.
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Old 08-07-2007, 10:58 PM
 
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I don't mean to sound belittling but anyone with a general understanding of DNA would know that we would be too closely linked to have any formidable evidence in a courtroom as far as DNA is concerned if the OP was true.
Ok... If I had a sister, and I do, correct me if I am wrong, but we have differing dna that would be distinguishable... is that correct? Or since we have the same mother and father does that make our dna exactly the same? Are both of my brothers dna exactly the same as mine too? Or could our dna tell us appart?
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:23 PM
 
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Ok... If I had a sister, and I do, correct me if I am wrong, but we have differing dna that would be distinguishable... is that correct? Or since we have the same mother and father does that make our dna exactly the same? Are both of my brothers dna exactly the same as mine too? Or could our dna tell us appart?
Yes, you are correct, but what the author suggests is that we would all show interrelation on a different than human-only level.

Let me put it to you this way. Do you remember when Anna Nicole Smith died and there was a big controversy in the news over the baby's daddy? Well, by the author's own scientific theorum both father's would have had a "relation" to the baby. This, we know is simply not true. That is why DNA is so unique to each individual. And back to his previous post about matter and atoms. What makes up DNA? It's all just a bunch of matter and atoms. Nothing divine there.
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Old 08-07-2007, 11:42 PM
 
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Yes, you are correct, but what the author suggests is that we would all show interrelation on a different than human-only level.

Let me put it to you this way. Do you remember when Anna Nicole Smith died and there was a big controversy in the news over the baby's daddy? Well, by the author's own scientific theorum both father's would have had a "relation" to the baby. This, we know is simply not true. That is why DNA is so unique to each individual..

yes, I have a response.... uhhhh what?

I think the OP was saying that there is a basic link in our dna that we all share. Other than that it's all distinguishable to us.....


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And back to his previous post about matter and atoms. What makes up DNA? It's all just a bunch of matter and atoms. Nothing divine there.
Ok... if that is all that we are... we should be able to make clones without starting out with the dna that God provided us with.
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Old 08-08-2007, 05:42 AM
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Ok... if that is all that we are... we should be able to make clones without starting out with the dna that God provided us with.
I assume this statement implies that if scientists develop this technique, then you will give up your believe in god?

If not, then I fail to see how the current state of human technology has anything to do with any evidence for or against god.
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:34 PM
 
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Mitochondrial Eve was not the first female human.
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:37 PM
 
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Ok... if that is all that we are... we should be able to make clones without starting out with the dna that God provided us with.
Cloning is in its infant stage. What has our state of technology do do with the existence of God? Two-hundred years ago, we didn't have the technology for powered flight. Now we do. So what? All this shows is that humans are capable of learning. It says nothing about God.
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Old 08-08-2007, 01:52 PM
 
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Virtually all cells of every living thing (plants, animals, and humans) contain tiny strands of coded information called DNA. DNA directs the cell, telling it what to produce and when. Therefore, much of your appearance and personality is determined by DNA you inherited from your parents.

In human cells, the nucleus contains 99.5% of the DNA. Half of it came from the individual’s mother and half from the father. Because both halves are shuffled together, it is difficult to identify which parent contributed any tiny segment. In other words, half of this DNA changes with each generation. However, outside the nucleus of each cell are thousands of little energy-producing components called mitochondria, each containing a circular strand of DNA. Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) comes only from the mother. Where did she get hers? From her mother—and so on. Normally, mtDNA does not change from generation to generation.

In 1987, a team at the University of California at Berkeley published a study comparing the mtDNA of 147 people from five of the world’s geographic locations.2 They concluded that all 147 had the same female ancestor. She is now called “the mitochondrial Eve.”

From a biblical perspective, do we know where Eve lived? Because the flood was so destructive, no one knows where the Garden of Eden was.4 However, Noah’s three daughters-in-law, who lived only a dozen or so generations after Eve, began raising their families near Mount Ararat in eastern Turkey—very near the common boundary of Asia, Africa, and Europe. (Each of us can claim one of Noah’s daughters-in-law as our ever-so-great grandmother.) So it is not surprising that Asia, Africa, and Europe are candidate homes for mitochondrial Eve.

Likewise, when similar words, sounds, and grammar of the world’s most widely spoken languages are traced back in time, they also seem to originate near Ararat.5 Another convergence near eastern Turkey is found when one traces agriculture back in time.6

When did mitochondrial Eve live? To answer this, one must know how frequently mutations occur in mtDNA. Initial estimates were based on the following faulty reasoning: “Humans and chimpanzees had a common ancestor about 5 million years ago. Because the mtDNA in humans and chimpanzees differ in 1,000 places, one mutation occurs about every 10,000 years.” Another erroneous approach began by assuming that Australia was first populated 40,000 years ago. The average number of mitochondrial mutations among Australian aborigines divided by 40,000 years provided another extremely slow mutation rate for mtDNA. These estimated rates, based on evolution, led to the mistaken belief that mitochondrial Eve lived 100,000–200,000 years ago.8 This surprised evolutionists who believe that our common ancestor was an apelike creature that lived 31/2 million years ago.9

A greater surprise, even disbelief, occurred in 1997, when it was announced that mutations in mtDNA occur 20 times more rapidly than had been estimated. Without assuming that humans and chimpanzees had a common ancestor 5 million years ago or that Australia was populated 40,000 years ago, mutation rates can now be determined directly by comparing the mtDNA of many mother-child pairs. Using the new, more accurate rate, mitochondrial Eve lived only about 6,500 years ago.10
Is there a “genetic Adam”? A man receives from his father a segment of DNA which lies on the Y chromosome; this makes him a male. Where did your father receive his segment? From his father. If we all descended from one man, all males should have the same Y chromosome segment—except for rare mutations.

A 1995 study of a worldwide sample of 38 men showed no changes in this segment of the Y chromosome that is always inherited from fathers. Had humans evolved and all men descended from one male who lived 500,000 years ago, each should carry about 19 mutations. Had he lived 150,000 years ago, 5.5 mutations would be expected.11 Because no changes were found, our common father probably lived only thousands of years ago. While Adam was father of all, our most recent common male ancestor was Noah.



Yes, new discoveries show that we carry traces of Adam and Eve in our cells. Furthermore, our common “parents” are probably removed from us by only 200–300 generations. All humans have a common and recent bond—a family bond. We are all cousins.
The "mitochondrial" Eve has been accepted for a long time. This has nothing to do with the Eve of the Christian bible. This is known throughout the world.. your facts are either very misleading, or based on misunderstanding.
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