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I'd like to add an opinion that because we are one of the most developed societies in the world we have access to many of the "gifts" of science and many of them are proving to be harmful to the human body and psyche.
I often wonder how much pollution in the air, prescription drugs in our water supply and various contaminations of our soil and food play a part in triggering violence in some susceptible individuals.
Also I don't think an environment of cement, glass and bricks and multitudes of people crowded together in one spot is conducive to a serene, relaxed attitude in people or animals.
Good points.
I'd add that I can't help but think the (now) standard American diet of processed food can also be a trigger.
Today’s newspaper featured a heart rending story of an 18-year-old boy in Texas who shot and wounded three students, one of them critically (link), and one of whom declined medical attention.
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Are there any serious studies other than agenda-driven tracts about these fairly common, purposeless and tragic situations? Or in lieu of such studies, does anybody hear have any ideas?
These are just a few of many, many stories.
You have to realize that the nice, safe, high-trust world you used to live in has changed.
This article draws on Jeffrey Stevenson Murer’s theory of the performative and communicative function of violence as well as on Pierre Bourdieu’s concepts of social field, habitus and social capital in order to demonstrate that violence during gang initiation rites is an inherently social act that reinforces and strengthens the social ties and bonds among the members of a gang. https://link.springer.com/article/10...67-020-09392-2
South LA Man Shot And Killed In Possible Gang Initiation
Donte Jones' family says he was killed as part of a gang initiation in South LA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzsrGK9J6Ng
They're still looking into the motive of the 15 year old who shot and killed four and wounded eight at Oxford High School in Michigan yesterday. He and his parents had met with school staff several hours before the shootings.
They're still looking into the motive of the 15 year old who shot and killed four and wounded eight at Oxford High School in Michigan yesterday. He and his parents had met with school staff several hours before the shootings.
Of course neither the student nor his parents will talk. How about the peers of the student or the work associates of either or both of the parents? Surely these people don't face obvious penal consequences by talking. I'd be most interested to learn about Ethan Crumbley's social adjustment.
This, combined with basic counseling and modern medicine would be a much more humane and less expensive method.
I can just hear the law suits piling up as I type. Heh.
Good points.
I think are a lot of people in power who don't want a workable mental health model as you suggested.
I imagine this ties back to the private prison-industrial-complex. Too profitable to alter and lining the politician's pockets.
More money to be made by incarcerating them.
I think the problem is more the futility of treatments for many people. Even wealthy people who get one-on-one therapy do it once a week, except August and aren't perceptibly improved. In a mass setting - fuggetaboutit.
Of course neither the student nor his parents will talk. How about the peers of the student or the work associates of either or both of the parents? Surely these people don't face obvious penal consequences by talking. I'd be most interested to learn about Ethan Crumbley's social adjustment.
His parents apparently didn't think anything was wrong with his behavior. You wonder how so many of the parents of kids who do this are so blind to what's going on (and that goes all the way back to Columbine).
On Monday, a teacher saw the suspect looking at photos of ammunition on his cell phone during class, which prompted a meeting with a counselor and another staff member. During that discussion, the student told them that he and his mother had recently gone to a shooting range and that "shooting sports are a family hobby," Throne wrote in the letter.
The school tried to reach the student's mother that day, but didn't hear back until the following day when his parents confirmed the student's story, Throne said.
After school officials reached out to Jennifer Crumbley regarding her son searching the web for ammunition, she texted him saying, "LOL I'm not mad at you. You have to learn not to get caught," prosecutors have said.
more and more it's surfacing that a lot of violent behavior is modern time challenges originated on some social media that idle people found worthwhile becoming a part of
Good (angelic) asks for sacrifices while bad (satanic) always offers rewards now and here.
more and more it's surfacing that a lot of violent behavior is modern time challenges originated on some social media that idle people found worthwhile becoming a part of
Good (angelic) asks for sacrifices while bad (satanic) always offers rewards now and here.
Putting religion aside as an unproven, the premise is still correct, in instant gratification vs the patience needed to acquire good job skills, trade knowledge. In the impoverished inner-cities, that trade-school knowledge that is cultivated is drugs/gangs, not electrical/plumbing. In Detroit/Chicago/midwest, it used to be that many could be in the automotive industry, now that is not a likely option. Now the "trade" with the best pay, sense of community, for inner city people with poor education and impoverished is gang/drug trade.
This is not rocket science folks, inner city young men are taking the easiest path of least resistance with the most instant gratification.
It's about money, community, education, and opportunity as it always has been.
Many of the mentally ill on the street are the result of the major change that was effected in the 1950's. "Deinstitutionalization" became the buzzword. The problems of deinsitutionalization was highlighted by the 1990's as shown in the book, Out of the Shadows: Confronting America's Mental Illness Crisis by E. Fuller Torrey, M.D. (New York: John Wiley & Sons, 1997).
"Deinstitutionalization is the name given to the policy of moving severely mentally ill people out of large state institutions and then closing part or all of those institutions; it has been a major contributing factor to the mental illness crisis.
Deinstitutionalization began in 1955 with the widespread introduction of chlorpromazine, commonly known as Thorazine, the first effective antipsychotic medication, and received a major impetus 10 years later with the enactment of federal Medicaid and Medicare. Deinstitutionalization has two parts: the moving of the severely mentally ill out of the state institutions, and the closing of part or all of those institutions. The former affects people who are already mentally ill. The latter affects those who become ill after the policy has gone into effect and for the indefinite future because hospital beds have been permanently eliminated.
The magnitude of deinstitutionalization of the severely mentally ill qualifies it as one of the largest social experiments in American history. In 1955, there were 558,239 severely mentally ill patients in the nation's public psychiatric hospitals. In 1994, this number had been reduced by 486,620 patients, to 71,619. It is important to note, however, that the census of 558,239 patients in public psychiatric hospitals in 1955 was in relationship to the nation's total population at the time, which was 164 million.
By 1994, the nation's population had increased to 260 million. If there had been the same proportion of patients per population in public mental hospitals in 1994 as there had been in 1955, the patients would have totaled 885,010. The true magnitude of deinstitutionalization, then, is the difference between 885,010 and 71,619. In effect, approximately 92 percent of the people who would have been living in public psychiatric hospitals in 1955 were not living there in 1994. "
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