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View Poll Results: How pessimistic/optimistic are you about America's future?
Strongly optimistic 8 9.20%
Moderately optimistic 6 6.90%
Mildly optimistic 12 13.79%
Neither optimistic or pessimistic 8 9.20%
Mildly pessimistic 6 6.90%
Moderately pessimistic 11 12.64%
Strongly pessimistic 36 41.38%
Voters: 87. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-11-2024, 07:48 PM
 
Location: Northwest Houston
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People on here a VERY pessimistic. When you spend a lot of time online, it’s easy for that to happen. I voted mildly optimistic, because America is certainly facing many challenges. We’ve gotten through them before, and I think we can get through it again.
Regarding younger generations- every new generation has faced criticism and concern from their elders. It happened with me, a young Gen X’r. But my kids are gen Z and based on them and their friends, I have faith. Who is currently running the country? Hint, it’s not those under 30.
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Old 05-11-2024, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Somewhere below Mason/Dixon
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This country is filled with spoiled entitled people who seem to bask in their own ignorance. 40 percent of the nation is socialist, our youth make up most of those socialist individuals. We are dangerously divided between those who demand socialism and wokism vs those who refuse to accept those things at all costs. Most countries in this situation eventually have a civil war and the winner imposes itself on the loser. The other potential outcome from a civil war is partition of the country.

Democracy requires an educated and engaged population. It requires tolerance and civility. We no longer possess these qualities. When it’s over we will be Venezuela. That South American country used to be democratic and prosperous too until socialism destroyed it.
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Old 05-11-2024, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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People on here a VERY pessimistic. When you spend a lot of time online, it’s easy for that to happen. I voted mildly optimistic, because America is certainly facing many challenges. We’ve gotten through them before, and I think we can get through it again.
Regarding younger generations- every new generation has faced criticism and concern from their elders. It happened with me, a young Gen X’r. But my kids are gen Z and based on them and their friends, I have faith. Who is currently running the country? Hint, it’s not those under 30.
My fear for the future of America has absolutely nothing to do with my time on line, and everything to do with the rapid and relentless march of the USA toward the extreme political left and toward woke totalitarian socialism, since at least the time of the Civil War if not earlier.

Certainly since 1913, with a big jump in the 1960s and another horrific shift since the 1990s that are pushing us toward the end game.

If we were becoming more free, with more privacy, with less dependence and more self-sufficiency, if the US intelligence agencies were surrenduring power, if government was shrinking, if college staff were becoming more balanced between left and right whiled teaching US history rather than socialism and 57 genders and pronouns, if more people were paying taxes and less were on the dole, if the borders were sealed and all immigrants were legally vetted, if we were not on the verge of being forced to use digital currency and drive electric cars -- then I would be much more optimistic about the future of America.

My cynicism is based on sound reasoning as regards the things I value in a nation and citizenry.
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Old 05-11-2024, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Depends on who wins.

Having said that, if Trump wins, we delay destruction for 4 years. If we get a decent person running for election in 2028 on the Republican ticket, or even a 3rd party who inspires many for good things, not destroying, then we may be able to turn this apple cart around before it turns over.

If the left wins, since they have no issue with anything the WEF wants to force onto people, not only are we screwed, the rest of the planet is, as well.

We have enemies in the WEF, the WHO, and the UN. People can be bribed to do their bidding...what do they care, they won't be affected. We, the people of the world, will be affected. And it won't be good for anyone, no matter their political choices.
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Old 05-11-2024, 08:24 PM
 
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We’re too diverse, too divided, spread too thin globally and too broke at home. I don’t know what the future holds but there isn’t enough political capital to reverse course. And maybe that’s a good thing, The system put in place in the 1700’s was never intended to govern what we have today.
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Old 05-11-2024, 08:33 PM
 
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When I look at the young kids today, I get the feeling that it would be a miracle if most of them just turned out to be functional grown-ups. If the children are the future, we are in some very deep feces.
I disagree. Most of the young people I know are great. They seem to have their heads screwed on right, despite, not because of, their parents. Once our self-centered Boomer generation passes on, Gen X, Y and Z will pick up the pieces and carry on.
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Old 05-11-2024, 08:37 PM
 
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Democracy requires an educated and engaged population. It requires tolerance and civility. We no longer possess these qualities. When it’s over we will be Venezuela. That South American country used to be democratic and prosperous too until socialism destroyed it.
Hopefully, when it’s over we will be Norway.
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Old 05-11-2024, 08:53 PM
 
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When I look at the young kids today, I get the feeling that it would be a miracle if most of them just turned out to be functional grown-ups. If the children are the future, we are in some very deep feces.
That's pretty funny. Every generation says that about the next. And yet our country has always survived. You don't think boomers parents felt this way. It was the generation of drugs, sex and rock and roll. They turned out fine and contributed a lot.
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Old Yesterday, 05:10 AM
 
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We’re too diverse, too divided, spread too thin globally and too broke at home. I don’t know what the future holds but there isn’t enough political capital to reverse course. And maybe that’s a good thing, The system put in place in the 1700’s was never intended to govern what we have today.

Pretty well sums it up.
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Old Yesterday, 06:35 AM
 
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It is pretty crazy just how pessimistic everyone has become over the last 5 years (especially the under 35 crowd). I was a pessimistic bastard long before it became cool, but I really started to lose whatever last shreds of hope I had left in 2020. I now view America as totally irredeemable.

I view the country as a four-way cross between 1984, Brave New World, Sodom and Gomorrah, and Idiocracy, with just a splash of 'Hunger Games,' (we have not gone full Hunger Games just yet. That part comes when the government checks stop going out). There is absolutely no voting our way out of this. And really, things have not even started to get bad.

God willing, I will be out of here within three years. So, just how pessimistic/optimistic are you about America's future?
Depends on who is president, so I didn't vote.
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