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Old 04-25-2024, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Well I don’t disagree with this, I worry that offering further subsidies will just drive the costs higher. That seems to be the pattern of what happens in this country.
Pretty much.

If the government (read: taxpayers) is going to pay for community college, we need to go the full on German route where the government decides what you get to do. Or at the very minimum, the only degrees that should be approved would be for industries/positions that are in demand.

 
Old 04-25-2024, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Annandale, VA
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Pretty much.

If the government (read: taxpayers) is going to pay for community college, we need to go the full on German route where the government decides what you get to do. Or at the very minimum, the only degrees that should be approved would be for industries/positions that are in demand.
Yep. Dummies and low IQ dig ditches or hold the stupid end of the tape measure.
 
Old 04-25-2024, 12:54 PM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Yep. Dummies and low IQ dig ditches or hold the stupid end of the tape measure.
And if not for those construction workers, you'd be living in the truck of your Lexus.
 
Old 04-25-2024, 01:00 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Candidates pledge many things. Not everything comes to fruition or gets approved when it goes to congress.

Grain of salt and all that.
Hmm, what changed? Just a few short years ago and recently too, you used to think quite differently about campaign promises:

"That's the commitment. No excuses, no backtracking."

And as long as it's "not U.S. taxpayers, *as promised*." who foots the bill.

https://www.city-data.com/forum/53980059-post185.html

And you've been saying similar over those past few years including even this year, so what changed?



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However, expanding opportunities for more education is not a bad investment. How many times have we seen people complain about money going elsewhere, wanting more resources to go to Americans? Now, look at the reaction when such a thing is proposed.
So if that happens, expanding opportunities for education on the taxpayer's dime, does that mean the money going elsewhere will stop?

Many of us already pay for education through our sales and homeowner taxes(homeowners get hit twice).

I think if Democrats want higher education or trade school to be free, and to financially support illegals too, then why not instead of forcing people to pay through our taxes let people volunteer to pay. When people sign up to vote, give them a box to check that gives them the opportunity to agree that they will pay those expenses, or put it on the ballots when they vote. And at the end of the year, everyone who checks that box will get the bill.

You surely would check that box wouldn't you, since the reasons are for something you want to happen?
 
Old 04-25-2024, 01:07 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Community College is already dirt cheap.

Stay in mom and dad's house for another year or two after high school, or get roommates, and get a job in fast food or something to cover your costs.

Oh wait... B]Fast food is no longer entry-level work for teens and college students[/b], but rather a long-term career for this silly goofball generation of lazy morons.
And mid class and retirees who want to make a few extra bucks. Lazy people, some yeah, but mainly because illegals are taking those low-level jobs.
 
Old 04-25-2024, 01:08 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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I wonder if some of you object to high school being "free" too. Why can't we shift our thinking to include community college being equally free? Yes, I know that it all comes from taxes, but valuable things have a cost and some things, like education, are worth it. Why wouldn't you want an educated populace that is career-ready?
We are already paying for schooling up through high school. Do you see most people complaining about it?
 
Old 04-25-2024, 01:11 PM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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We are already paying for schooling up through high school. Do you see most people complaining about it?
Constantly.
 
Old 04-25-2024, 01:23 PM
 
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If money from another program gets shifted to fund this new educational program, that's how. The "money" is already being spent somewhere else. The amount to fund 2 years of community college could likely be easily met. Shifting $$$$ around is the way to do that without raising taxes.
Then if that money can so easily be moved...was it being used for something of any value? If it wasn't of value, why not just stop spending instead of trying to find someplace else to use it?

If it was of value what do you tell the people that now lose that money? The answer is that they now find new funding for that program that the money came from. So by juggling the books the funding for the CC didn't cost taxpayers anything, but they added additional costs for the other programs instead.
 
Old 04-25-2024, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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I posted last night that expanding funding to allow community college free for a two-year program is a worthy investment, it would be beneficial for Americans. That post was deleted for being off topic?

Anyway, if we are considered a first world country, than we do need to offer free college similar to European countries: France, Germany, Greece, Netherlands, Norway and more.... all offer free college for their citizens.

Further education for our citizens would cost money, but that money stays here in the U.S. rather than funding wars or being sent to other countries.
 
Old 04-25-2024, 01:43 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Constantly.
People complain about taxes, people have always complained about paying taxes and they always will complain about it. But I don't see many people complaining that the tax money is going to schools.
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