[#1soonerfan]

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I can't say I really see it even in the more rural parts outside of OKC.

[e_cuyler]

I used to see it as a kid [remember even one of the school board members had a front tag of it on his truck] but then again, I grew up in Adair County.

I have not noticed them much in recent years, not even in Adair County.

[johnspecial]

Originally Posted by swake

You almost never see a Confederate flag in Oklahoma, it's really rare. At least in northeastern Oklahoma.

And you should not fly it, it is a symbol of slavery and a racist icon.

Go suck on an egg. Read some history and travel outside of NE Oklahoma for once in your life. Take a trip down to Antlers or Idabel and tell them that.

[Bass&Catfish2008]

Originally Posted by johnspecial

Go suck on an egg. Read some history and travel outside of NW Oklahoma for once in your life. Take a trip down to Antlers or Idabel and tell them that.

He might get peppered with some buckshot in the hindquarters down in those parts!

[johnspecial]

Originally Posted by Bass&Catfish2008

He might get peppered with some buckshot in the hindquarters down in those parts!

Or worse, his eyes would melt from the sight of rebel flags.

[swake]

Attitudes like yours are why your part of the state is dying. Good riddance. Your view of Oklahoma is shrinking tiny minority. Almost 2.6 million of Oklahoma’s 3.8 million people now live the four metro areas. 2.3 million of them live in the two large metros of a million or more people. Oklahoma today is a predominantly urban state. This is the real Oklahoma now and year by year that shift becomes more pronounced.

I have been to far southeast Oklahoma. Mostly just flew by on the turnpike on the way to the real south (which is all most Oklahoman know of the area) but I have spent time in some of those towns. My Dad lived for years nearby in McAlester, a terrible place all on its own, and he was always looking for property to buy and deals on antiques. It’s a nice scenic area for the outdoors but that’s it. That tiny corner of Oklahoma is not a good area. It’s poor, aging and the towns are quickly dying. Many of the buildings are literally falling apart, in some towns it’s most buildings. The region is sparsely populated and shrinks year by year. I don’t recall that the confederate flag is common in that minor part of the state, but if it really is that says more about that area than Oklahoma as a whole. Overall in Oklahoma it’s not common at all. I would suspect that often hostile locals that commonly use display things like this racially charged and divisive flag are a big part of why your corner of the state has such an issue with population loss and poverty.

[johnspecial]

Originally Posted by swake

Attitudes like yours are why your part of the state is dying. Good riddance. Your view of Oklahoma is shrinking tiny minority. Almost 2.6 million of Oklahoma’s 3.8 million people now live the four metro areas. 2.3 million of them live in the two large metros of a million or more people. Oklahoma today is a predominantly urban state. This is the real Oklahoma now and year by year that shift becomes more pronounced.

I have been to far southeast Oklahoma. Mostly just flew by on the turnpike on the way to the real south (which is all most Oklahoman know of the area) but I have spent time in some of those towns. My Dad lived for years nearby in McAlester, a terrible place all on its own, and he was always looking for property to buy and deals on antiques. It’s a nice scenic area for the outdoors but that’s it. That tiny corner of Oklahoma is not a good area. It’s poor, aging and the towns are quickly dying. Many of the buildings are literally falling apart, in some towns it’s most buildings. The region is sparsely populated and shrinks year by year. I don’t recall that the confederate flag is common in that minor part of the state, but if it really is that says more about that area than Oklahoma as a whole. Overall in Oklahoma it’s not common at all. I would suspect that often hostile locals that commonly use display things like this racially charged and divisive flag are a big part of why your corner of the state has such an issue with population loss and poverty.

Oh blah blah. I stopped reading after you went into your diatribe about my part of Oklahoma dying. I know your kind well. You discriminate based on geography. You desperately wish Oklahoma was not associated with that part of the state. You will overcompensate by over-glorifying a portion of Oklahoma where no one lives. All while you paint a negative picture of Little Dixie. You most likely live in Tulsa. Which makes no sense why Tulsa is home to Oklahoma's angry bigotted liberal population. You're almost in Arkansas. SE Oklahoma is part of the real south(as is most of Oklahoma) and it will survive just fine. Property in the Kiamichis is a hot ticket item. New Cabins around Idabel are being built all the time. For example, McCurtain county's population has basically remained the same since 1980. Leflore has actually gained population by 4.7 percent. The SE portion of is not a tiny corner. It consists of roughly 1/4 of Oklahoma's land area.

You have decided the rebel flag is racist. Therefore, anyone who displays it is a racist in your mind. You have decided. Only problem, it's not up to you to decide. If the OP wants to fly the flag, he has every right to do so without persecution from some angry regressive.

[swake]

Yes, southeast Oklahoma has a quarter of the state’s land in 10 counties but the area only makes up 6.4% of the people of Oklahoma. Metro Tulsa as a comparison has 27% of the state’s population with a lot less than a quarter of the land. All of Northeastern Oklahoma would be quite a bit more than 27%. Again, the Tulsa and Oklahoma city metro areas have a combined 2.3 million people (compared to 240,000 for s.e. Oklahoma) and make of 62% of the state’s population. Small, poor run down towns like Stigler and Idabel are not the core of Oklahoma. Oklahoma City and Tulsa are.

Your embrace of the Southern culture that does exist in southeastern Oklahoma and trying to paste that over the whole rest of the state IS “over-glorifying a portion of Oklahoma where no one lives”.

You have the right to fly the confederate flag, but it is a racist symbol. Even aside from the whole fact that it was the battle flag of the army fighting to keep blacks enslaved it has been used by white power groups, the KKK and individual bigots to intimidate black people and others for 150 years. It IS a racist symbol, there is no question about that, except among bigots who aren't being intellectually honest.

[Johnhw2]

Originally Posted by swake

Attitudes like yours are why your part of the state is dying. Good riddance. Your view of Oklahoma is shrinking tiny minority. Almost 2.6 million of Oklahoma’s 3.8 million people now live the four metro areas. 2.3 million of them live in the two large metros of a million or more people. Oklahoma today is a predominantly urban state. This is the real Oklahoma now and year by year that shift becomes more pronounced.

I have been to far southeast Oklahoma. Mostly just flew by on the turnpike on the way to the real south (which is all most Oklahoman know of the area) but I have spent time in some of those towns. My Dad lived for years nearby in McAlester, a terrible place all on its own, and he was always looking for property to buy and deals on antiques. It’s a nice scenic area for the outdoors but that’s it. That tiny corner of Oklahoma is not a good area. It’s poor, aging and the towns are quickly dying. Many of the buildings are literally falling apart, in some towns it’s most buildings. The region is sparsely populated and shrinks year by year. I don’t recall that the confederate flag is common in that minor part of the state, but if it really is that says more about that area than Oklahoma as a whole. Overall in Oklahoma it’s not common at all. I would suspect that often hostile locals that commonly use display things like this racially charged and divisive flag are a big part of why your corner of the state has such an issue with population loss and poverty.

You need to get out more, try Durant, its in SE Oklahoma and growing as fast as most any town in Oklahoma. Yes they have a casino but the growth is much broader than just that....yes it is conversative and some are backward as with any small town but overall its a place completely unlike your claim about all of SE oklahoma.

[swake]

Originally Posted by Johnhw2

You need to get out more, try Durant, its in SE Oklahoma and growing as fast as most any town in Oklahoma. Yes they have a casino but the growth is much broader than just that....yes it is conversative and some are backward as with any small town but overall its a place completely unlike your claim about all of SE oklahoma.

I think of Durant as being more South Central Oklahoma, it's must more similar to North Texas than the South.