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Old 08-27-2023, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Montreal/Miami/Toronto
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Crunching some numbers on growth for Montreal (projections). It was reported that Quebec added 150,000 people in 2022, net gain of 146,000 once factoring in interprovincial migration. Of course, we still have to make up for losses after covid, so I believe 22-23 will have similar growth and then it will subside after that.

- GMA added (Projected) 62.3K immigrants in 21-22, with 49K on the island of Montreal. Factoring in interprovincial migrations, net gain was about 57K for the GMA and about 44.3K for Montreal. It was reported from July 1, 2021-July 1, 2022 that the city of Montreal grew by 14,000 people, we will see significant gains next year. StatsCan has the GMA growth at 38.1K, which seems very low, so I always use StatsQuebec since their numbers tend to be more accurate.

- Net gains when factoring in Br + Dr were abysmal, all of Quebec had a natural increase of 2.3K. I think Dr will decrease this year now that peak covid is gone.

- Live population clock has Quebec at 8,898,335 people , Q1 Quebec had an estimated 8,787,554 people, so 110,781 gain so far in 2023.
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Old 08-27-2023, 11:39 AM
 
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Crunching some numbers on growth for Montreal (projections). It was reported that Quebec added 150,000 people in 2022, net gain of 146,000 once factoring in interprovincial migration. Of course, we still have to make up for losses after covid, so I believe 22-23 will have similar growth and then it will subside after that.

- GMA added (Projected) 62.3K immigrants in 21-22, with 49K on the island of Montreal. Factoring in interprovincial migrations, net gain was about 57K for the GMA and about 44.3K for Montreal. It was reported from July 1, 2021-July 1, 2022 that the city of Montreal grew by 14,000 people, we will see significant gains next year. StatsCan has the GMA growth at 38.1K, which seems very low, so I always use StatsQuebec since their numbers tend to be more accurate.

- Net gains when factoring in Br + Dr were abysmal, all of Quebec had a natural increase of 2.3K. I think Dr will decrease this year now that peak covid is gone.

- Live population clock has Quebec at 8,898,335 people , Q1 Quebec had an estimated 8,787,554 people, so 110,781 gain so far in 2023.
How is the Province fairing in housing affordability and the ability to house this influx? I know in other parts of the country there is strain, particularly in Ontario and B.C.

So looks like QC is probably just passed the 9 million mark.
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Old 08-27-2023, 04:47 PM
 
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How is the Province fairing in housing affordability and the ability to house this influx? I know in other parts of the country there is strain, particularly in Ontario and B.C.

So looks like QC is probably just passed the 9 million mark.
In Montreal and Gatineau, which are the destination for many newcomers, there is significant strain. Renting in Montreal in particular is way more challenging than it was ten years ago. Quebec City and other smaller cities are still affordable, but have also experienced a trend of generally increasing property prices. The lack of ability for NGOS to help this many refugees has become an issue in the news.
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Old 08-28-2023, 06:12 PM
 
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In Montreal and Gatineau, which are the destination for many newcomers, there is significant strain. Renting in Montreal in particular is way more challenging than it was ten years ago. Quebec City and other smaller cities are still affordable, but have also experienced a trend of generally increasing property prices. The lack of ability for NGOS to help this many refugees has become an issue in the news.
This is not surprising to me and thank you for this Bimbam. Montreal has some good rental stock as well going back to pre WWII - probably the most dense legacy housing in the country but ofc, there is a limit to that hence the building boom going on. Everyone is strained these days. We need immigration growth to support an aging population but we struggle to house them. It isn't just build build build - it is finding ways to build a diversity of housing options for diverse needs - in particular of the affordable persuasion.

There is no way this isn't a national problem requiring national interventions.
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Old 09-03-2023, 04:05 PM
 
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Is Quebec experiencing the same influx of people from India as the rest of the country?
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Old 09-04-2023, 09:09 AM
 
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Is Quebec experiencing the same influx of people from India as the rest of the country?
Our top three has remained the same for a while, France, China and Iran, followed by Northern African nations and then you'll have a mix of other Asian, European and Latin American countries rounding up the top 10.
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Old 09-04-2023, 10:52 AM
 
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To be clear, there is significant Indian immigration to Quebec, Park Extension in Montreal for example is a little India type area. But Quebec gets more Francophone immigration and immigration from the Carribean, France, Francophone Africa, and northern Africa, and from Romance language speaking countries (Romanians, Latin Americans etc.). Plenty of Chinese and Vietnamese as well. But there are also plenty of Indians.
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Old 09-04-2023, 08:54 PM
 
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Ah yeah good ol' Parc ex. Lots of good Indian restaurants there. A lot of the south Asians I knew from parc ex were actually Sri Lankan and Pakistani.

Out here in Manitoba that vast majority of Indians seem to be Silkh. I don't remember seeing as many back east

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Old 09-04-2023, 11:47 PM
 
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Canadians and Americans are apparently similar in that they have forgotten how to reproduce.
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Old 09-05-2023, 05:23 PM
 
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Birthrates have fallen to replacement or lower in almost every developed country and many developing ones, but let's be honest, current Canadian immigration levels are set for aggressive growth, not population replacement.
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