WSJ: You have an awesome governor!

[MsBall]

Originally Posted by jennifat

We've seen many strains of influenza over the centuries. We know how influenza acts, and we have vaccines. SARS wasn't a pandemic. The fact that you think these are comparable to the current global health crisis is very revealing in how little informed a vast majority of the public is.

SARS-CoV-2 is brand new and it's killing people in ways that are baffling medical professionals. We still know very little about Covid-19 disease while it infects millions of people around the world.

It was a pandemic,

https://www.biospace.com/article/com...d-19-pandemic/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3329048/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lat...ic%3f_amp=true

[MrMinneapolis]

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[Lodestar]

I've lived through the pandemics of Asian Flu, Hong Kong Flu, Swine Flu, and Tuberculosis. In all cases they isolated the ill, not the well.

Also the epidemics of Scarlet Fever, Polio and Hard Measles. In 1964 I was confined for nearly three weeks and my temperature spiked at one-hundred and six degrees. They continued to have school with many of us missing. No one today thinks of those as dangerous but they were killers in those days before they were understood.

So I have had life experience with widespread disease. But in no case in seven decades have I heard of killing the community to prevent disease spread.

[davephan]

Of the COVID-19 deaths in Minnesota, 81% of them occurred in nursing homes or long term care facilities. The governor did a poor job of protecting the vulnerable old people in those facilities. At the same time, many of those COVID-19 deaths might actually be another cause of death, but labeled COVID-19 for the funding or for political reasons to make the COVID-19 problem look worse.

The governor also sat on his hands and did little to nothing for the first three nights of rioting, arson, and looting. The governor also quickly blamed the semi truck driver in the I-35 incident, when it was really the State of Minnesota that was to blame for not verifying that the freeway was actually closed to all traffic, before allowing a couple thousand demonstrators walk on a freeway bridge. Now, the governor is very silent about that I-35 incident.

[TheGrandViking]

Originally Posted by davephan

Of the COVID-19 deaths in Minnesota, 81% of them occurred in nursing homes or long term care facilities. The governor did a poor job of protecting the vulnerable old people in those facilities. At the same time, many of those COVID-19 deaths might actually be another cause of death, but labeled COVID-19 for the funding or for political reasons to make the COVID-19 problem look worse.

The governor also sat on his hands and did little to nothing for the first three nights of rioting, arson, and looting. The governor also quickly blamed the semi truck driver in the I-35 incident, when it was really the State of Minnesota that was to blame for not verifying that the freeway was actually closed to all traffic, before allowing a couple thousand demonstrators walk on a freeway bridge. Now, the governor is very silent about that I-35 incident.

This is a load of nonsense. The amount of staff required for servicing people in a nursing home is not trivial. The thought that somehow we could magically isolate these was not possible due to tests and the unfortunate focus on contact vs the air. . The tests then and now are at the level to assure either a false positive or false negative in a quick fashion is less than ideal to be kind. Many of these nursing homes are privately owned so instead should direct your ire at those entities.

The best way to to protect the old people was to block the introduction of the virus and having failed that, was to have accurate and fast tests with aggressive contact tracing. We failed at the national level bc Trump defunded a key obama initiative that dealt with pandemics the how to respond to them (I'll go into more detail next post bc I'm using my phone). The notion that the governor is to blame is not believable.