Police Officer Kim Potter guilty of manslaughter (Brooklyn Center, Wright: retire, rating)

[Seguinite]

It's only a matter of time before nobody wants to be a police anymore. Especially in places that NEED policing the most.

[mascoma]

Originally Posted by Seguinite

It's only a matter of time before nobody wants to be a police anymore. Especially in places that NEED policing the most.

I know. And people are celebrating. San Francisco convicted a cop for accidentally killing someone in 2009. Now it's one of the most crime ridden cities in the US, partly because they don't have enough cops.

https://www.hoover.org/research/why-...ridden-city-us

Enjoy your crime and chaos guys!

[Kaszilla]

Originally Posted by Seguinite

It's only a matter of time before nobody wants to be a police anymore. Especially in places that NEED policing the most.

Because they aren't getting away with killing unarmed people?

[WestieWhitie]

No, because they know they’ll get lynched if they ever use deadly force when they find themselves in a situation where they need to protect themselves from death or serious injury.

Also how’s the carjacking situation, how many doors down was the nearest one? How about nightly gunshots, all auto now or are some jokers still popping off singles?

Originally Posted by Kaszilla

Because they aren't getting away with killing unarmed people?

[snebarekim]

Originally Posted by City Guy997S

She had an unblemished record for over 20 years and was a training officer, I'd say she was a pretty good cop until this one day. Long career and one mistake......


.

This^

I also truly believe she made a mistake, but I also believe that police should be held to a higher standard.

Daunte Wright was a complete POS, and there are lots more like him out there, but she killed him.

There needs to be accountability. Manslaughter charges were appropriate.

[City Guy997S]

Originally Posted by davephan

Let's not forget about the unarmed victim that was shot and killed accidentally. He was driving with no driver's license. He was driving with no insurance. There was a warrant out for his arrest. He had a long criminal history, including threatening to shoot someone in the head. He resisted arrest. The unarmed victim was not a innocent person. It's clear he was a career criminal. He made the bad decision to do something stupid when he was stopped by the police. When you're stopped by the police, you should never do stupid things that might result in an accident happening. That was what happened. He made a stupid choice and was killed accidentally. His future victims will not become his future victims, since his criminal career is over. His supporters choose to selectively ignore his criminal history.

Potter made a serious mistake in the heat of the moment. The differences between the taser and gun are clear when you casually examine the weapons under no pressure. But in the heat of the moment, under extreme stress and extreme pressure, you don't have the same judgement that you'd have making that decision in a split second under extreme stress and pressure. That mistake will took the life of a career criminal, who made a very bad decision, and that mistake will also be costing Potter's freedom for many years in the future. Now, Potter probably seriously regrets that she didn't retire early, like many other cops.

The overall outcome of the event and conviction will result in higher crime rates in the Twin Cities area. Criminals will be emboldened as the police back off. In the future, there will be an increased number of victims of crime in the Twin Cities, as the crime rates escalate. The better police officers will retire early or leave Minnesota for a different state that believes in law and order, and respect for law enforcement.

One mistake in your post: He didn't threaten to shoot anyone in the head, he actually shot his friend in the head. Trial hadn't happened yet, kid's mother was outraged he would never get to serve time for the shooting.

Best justice: Daunte's family gets their settlement from the PD, then the other family takes every dollar to pay for their now brain damaged kid. That's passing the buck........

A little google search:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...suits-say.html

Daunte Wright, 20, was allegedly involved in two separate shooting incidents before he was killed by Minneapolis cop Kim Potter during an April traffic stop
Potter, who is charged with second-degree manslaughter, allegedly mixed up her Taser and her handgun when she opened fire on Wright
The new allegations against Wright have surfaced in two different lawsuits filed against his estate that allege he was involved in the shooting of two men
Wright was one of two men involved in a carjacking on March 21 that left the victim, Joshua Hodges, with a gunshot wound to his leg, one lawsuit says
The other man shot Hodges and Wright is accused of assaulting him before stealing his car
The second lawsuit alleges that Wright shot Caleb Livingston in the head and left him permanently disabled outside a gas station in May 2019
Wright was not charged in either shooting incident
The same lawyer, Michael Padden, is behind both lawsuits, which are each seeking $50,000 from Wright's estate

[davephan]

Originally Posted by City Guy997S

One mistake in your post: He didn't threaten to shoot anyone in the head, he actually shot his friend in the head. Trial hadn't happened yet, kid's mother was outraged he would never get to serve time for the shooting.

Best justice: Daunte's family gets their settlement from the PD, then the other family takes every dollar to pay for their now brain damaged kid. That's passing the buck........

A little google search:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...suits-say.html

Daunte Wright, 20, was allegedly involved in two separate shooting incidents before he was killed by Minneapolis cop Kim Potter during an April traffic stop
Potter, who is charged with second-degree manslaughter, allegedly mixed up her Taser and her handgun when she opened fire on Wright
The new allegations against Wright have surfaced in two different lawsuits filed against his estate that allege he was involved in the shooting of two men
Wright was one of two men involved in a carjacking on March 21 that left the victim, Joshua Hodges, with a gunshot wound to his leg, one lawsuit says
The other man shot Hodges and Wright is accused of assaulting him before stealing his car
The second lawsuit alleges that Wright shot Caleb Livingston in the head and left him permanently disabled outside a gas station in May 2019
Wright was not charged in either shooting incident
The same lawyer, Michael Padden, is behind both lawsuits, which are each seeking $50,000 from Wright's estate

Thanks for the correction about Daunte Wright shooting people instead of pointing a gun at people. I guess it depends on where you get the news, and the new bias, about factors in the story. I find it amazing that people are so upset about Daunte Wright being accidentally shot and killed. Society is better off since Daunte Wright's criminal life and criminal history ended. That will save Daunte Wright's future victims of having their lives destroyed, injury, or innocent people being killed by Daunte Wright in the future.

On the other hand, the verdict that was reached is coddling a violent career criminal and will cause more people to be victims of crime from other violent career criminals that become emboldened to commit more crimes, as the police back off from enforcement. That's the cost to society. Daunte Wright should accept some of the responsibly for his own death. He made a very stupid choice right before his accidental death. If he made better decisions in his life, he would still be alive today. But at least the many Daunte Wright victims, for the crimes that he committed, and was caught, and the much larger number of crimes where he wasn't caught, can be relieved that no one else will become a victim of Daunte Wright.

[Jimrob1]

I can't imagine anyone wanting to be a police officer in this country in this day and age. I would imagine applications must be noticeably down the past several years.

[Yosh01]

Originally Posted by snebarekim

This^

I also truly believe she made a mistake, but I also believe that police should be held to a higher standard.

Daunte Wright was a complete POS, and there are lots more like him out there, but she killed him.

There needs to be accountability. Manslaughter charges were appropriate.

The 1st degree manslaughter charge required that she be conscious of her action and reckless. From the evidence I've seen, I don't believe that was the case the jury's verdict was wrong.

But I have a question for you. You say because she needs to be held to a higher standard she should be punished criminally for her mistake. What about a doctor who makes a mistake in a diagnosis or during surgery that results in a death. Even when a doctor makes a huge blunder the worst outcome is a malpractice suit or loss of license. Why not hold doctors to the same standard and Officer Potter?

[snebarekim]

Originally Posted by Yosh01

The 1st degree manslaughter charge required that she be conscious of her action and reckless. From the evidence I've seen, I don't believe that was the case the jury's verdict was wrong.

OK, I wasn't aware of that level to the charge. If so, I would agree the verdict incorrect. From everything I saw, it was a really really bad mistake, not willful negligence. It's urban Minnesota, so I have no doubt there was progtards on the jury, hence the guilty of an overcharge.

But should she be let off scot free? She killed somebody when she effed up, and she should have known better. What do you think should have happened to her? Simply fired?

Originally Posted by Yosh01

But I have a question for you. You say because she needs to be held to a higher standard she should be punished criminally for her mistake. What about a doctor who makes a mistake in a diagnosis or during surgery that results in a death. Even when a doctor makes a huge blunder the worst outcome is a malpractice suit or loss of license. Why not hold doctors to the same standard and Officer Potter?

Good question, but doctors and police have really different roles in our society. We as a society accept that sick/injured people can often die.

And doctors pay really high malpractice insurance rates in America for that very reason.