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Old 09-30-2021, 11:05 PM
 
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7 people were shot in Minneapolis last night. 7! Same Chief that was in office when the Damon woman was shot and killed by MPD and when Chauvin did his thing.

No change in leadership. This problem isn’t one bad cop. It’s complete incompetence in city leadership.
such a basic fact to check and yet you're still wrong.
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Old 09-30-2021, 11:07 PM
 
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There was never definitive proof Floyd died from the Chauvin restraint hold, and didn't just die of an OD from fentanyl. Prosecution relied on "expert opinions", from "experts" heavily coached by Crump who specializes in this stuff for decades. It's impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt the restraint had anything to do with Floyd's death. He could have died of a drug OD/heart attack just sitting in the back of the police cruiser with nobody even close to him. I'd say 4 yrs is more like it for Chauvin negligence.

No way Chauvin got anywhere close to a fair jury. For example, post trial a photo surfaced of one of the jury members (well before the trial) at a black lives rally event with a justice for Floyd tee shirt on. Yeah, like he didn't have his mind made up already. Jury members likely feared their lives were in danger if they didn't come with a guilty verdict. No way could they find a partial jury for this in Minni. No way.
but he didn't.
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Old 10-01-2021, 06:00 AM
 
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such a basic fact to check and yet you're still wrong.
Shootings daily have become the new normal here. I’m used to reading/hearing about them now, it doesn’t surprise me anymore, this isn’t a good trend. A group in north is petitioning to have National Guard patrol the streets. A friend in ne had his garage broken into last weekend, the cop that finally arrived said there’s no cops patrolling/working in that area…

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Old 10-01-2021, 10:22 AM
 
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Shootings daily have become the new normal here. I’m used to reading/hearing about them now, it doesn’t surprise me anymore, this isn’t a good trend. A group in north is petitioning to have National Guard patrol the streets. A friend in ne had his garage broken into last weekend, the cop that finally arrived said there’s no cops patrolling/working in that area…
what does that have to do with the error in the post regarding the chief?
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Old 10-01-2021, 10:12 PM
 
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what does that have to do with the error in the post regarding the chief?
Went along with prior person mentioning 7 were shot that particular night.
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Old 10-02-2021, 11:40 AM
 
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Went along with prior person mentioning 7 were shot that particular night.
the basis of the argument was bad, unchanging leadership leading to chaos. once that is refuted then then argument on which it is based falls apart.

the fact of deaths is not in dispute but the basis is. a different, less lazy approach would have resulted in no argument from me. starting from a false premise is a bad start.
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Old 10-02-2021, 02:56 PM
 
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the basis of the argument was bad, unchanging leadership leading to chaos. once that is refuted then then argument on which it is based falls apart.

the fact of deaths is not in dispute but the basis is. a different, less lazy approach would have resulted in no argument from me. starting from a false premise is a bad start.
Correct, I agree.
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Old 10-09-2021, 07:43 AM
 
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Chauvin can't even make oral arguments unless he hires a lawyer. But apparently he can't afford one.



Honestly this is sick. Even Richard Ramirez would have been given a lawyer if he couldn't afford one, yet Chauvin doesn't get one? This is apartheid and it is just gross.
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Old 10-11-2021, 12:22 PM
 
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Chauvin is a piece of **** for many reasons but that wasn't even railroading, that was a straight-up lynching.


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Chauvin can't even make oral arguments unless he hires a lawyer. But apparently he can't afford one.



Honestly this is sick. Even Richard Ramirez would have been given a lawyer if he couldn't afford one, yet Chauvin doesn't get one? This is apartheid and it is just gross.
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Old 10-11-2021, 07:00 PM
 
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Chauvin is a piece of **** for many reasons but that wasn't even railroading, that was a straight-up lynching.
Many reasons?
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