08-12-2019, 03:34 PM
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I don't mind the Bear head logo, but the name is terrible. They always have drafted in middle of league every year. You can't win unless you tank for a few years and get top 3 picks (look at Chi and Pens). Then we draft a star and he stays in Russia
I also read Fletcher didn't meet him in person for a few years after drafting. WTF your guy in charge didn't go meet him before or right after picking him????
I believe the root is the owner, the guy didn't do anything in Nashville, they became top tier after he left. A guy I used to know when he lived here was John Madden. He told me all about playing with Wild after NJ and Chi and won 3 cups. The team treats players as second rate. NJ and Chi do things wild would never do. It's small things, but rest of players in league know them. Another good friend who skates and is good buddies with countless NHL players is good friends with Parise. Parise hates the coach and always has, Suter too. There's been screaming matches with Suter and coach. The lockeroom is't good either, what Ryan Carter told my buddy how bad it really is and he went into detail, it's not good....
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I think the name is stupid but I guess I'm the only one who likes the uniforms. Red and green are cool! Not just for Christmas anymore! The Devils used to wear red and green but then caved and went to the more conservative red and black.
But I see the OP is from Quincy---in the backyard of the team with some of the ugliest uniforms in sports: the Bruins. It's not black and "gold", it's black and yellow. They look like bumblebees! Black and gold is the New Orleans Saints, the Vegas Golden Knights, the Colorado Buffaloes.....awesome uniforms. Black and yellow is hideous. I'll never understand why the Penguins went back to it after they had switched to really sharp black and gold (or pale yellow) unis.
Oh, and any franchise with bad ownership has no chance. It really is probably the most important part of the equation I've come to realize.
08-15-2019, 01:37 PM
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Out of staters don’t like our hockey team name. Yawn.
I am in state and I despise the name. It irks the h*ll out of me that the North Stars were allowed to relocate. It was a great name with great history. How the 'state of hockey' lost their NHL franchise is mind boggling. The Wild will never win me over and there is no doubt that it is a stupid name.
08-15-2019, 01:42 PM
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I am in state and I despise the name. It irks the h*ll out of me that the North Stars were allowed to relocate. It was a great name with great history. How the 'state of hockey' lost their NHL franchise is mind boggling. The Wild will never win me over and there is no doubt that it is a stupid name.
Count your blessings. In Hartford we lost the Whalers and will likely never get an NHL team back. At least you got another team.
08-15-2019, 02:31 PM
Location: Chisago Lakes, Minnesota
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Count your blessings. In Hartford we lost the Whalers and will likely never get an NHL team back. At least you got another team.
I'd gladly send them to Hartford right now and hope for another expansion franchise. Rather have no team than one that continually disgraces this state's incomparable hockey tradition.
08-15-2019, 03:12 PM
Location: Twin Cities
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I am in state and I despise the name. It irks the h*ll out of me that the North Stars were allowed to relocate. It was a great name with great history. How the 'state of hockey' lost their NHL franchise is mind boggling. The Wild will never win me over and there is no doubt that it is a stupid name.
You do know that Norm Green relocated to Dallas because his hopes of doing retail development around the Met were dashed after he was accused of sexually harassing his assistant. Her dad happened to be Walt Dziedzik, then head of the Metropolitan Sports Facilities Commission which had to approve his plans.
Norm took a bath moving into Reunion with the Mavericks as they knew they had him over a barrel and kept all the parking and concessions revenue from the hockey games. He sold the team a few years later and someone else built the Mall of America.
We didn’t do anything to lose the North Stars. They were regularly selling out before Norm moved the team.
08-15-2019, 03:13 PM
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I'd gladly send them to Hartford right now and hope for another expansion franchise. Rather have no team than one that continually disgraces this state's incomparable hockey tradition.
Believe me, you don't want that. If you lose two NHL franchises there's a good chance you won't get a 3rd. Again, a bad NHL team is better than no NHL team. Hartford went from the Whalers to the Hartford Wolf Pack: the Rangers AHL affiliate. They often play to 2,000---3,000 or fewer crowds with the upper level of the XL Center curtained off. A sad fall from grace. And now the Whalers are mythologized in this state. Everyone dreams of them coming back. Our AA minor league baseball team and our new USL Championship soccer team both wear blue and green in honor of the now legendary Whalers. The Governor and the Mayor even sent a pleading letter to the NY Islanders' owner a couple of years ago suggesting they play in Hartford for a year whiler their arena was being renovated. (The Islanders' owner dismissed this out of hand and probably laughed at them in private). Discussions of a new arena (which never get off the ground due to costss) always center around maybe, possibly, cross our fingers the Whalers will come back.
But it's never happening. For one thing, metropolitan Hartford is just over 1 million people. For another Boston and New York fanbases intrude on our fanbase. In fact. the Whalers struggled when a local competitor for winter sport attention surfaced starting in 1990 when UConn basketball became a national power.
Obviously, MSP has big advantages over us in that way: your metro are is more than 3x bigger and you don't have two larger metros a 2 hour drive away in each direction. But still.....losing another team would be bad. And as long as you're in the big leagues there's always a chance. Look at the St. Louis Blues: the model of underachieving, mediocrity, and ownership dysfunction for decades. Yet they caught lightning in a bottle and won the Stanley Cup.
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08-15-2019, 04:11 PM
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You do know that Norm Green relocated to Dallas because his hopes of doing retail development around the Met were dashed after he was accused of sexually harassing his assistant. Her dad happened to be Walt Dziedzik, then head of the Metropolitan Sports Facilities Commission which had to approve his plans.
Norm took a bath moving into Reunion with the Mavericks as they knew they had him over a barrel and kept all the parking and concessions revenue from the hockey games. He sold the team a few years later and someone else built the Mall of America.
We didn’t do anything to lose the North Stars. They were regularly selling out before Norm moved the team.
I was referring to the NHL. There is no way they should have allowed the franchise to pack up and move out of MN. If you substituted say Jerry Jones for Norm Green for the scenario you laid out above, do you think the NFL and their owners would allow the Cowboys to move to a different state?
08-15-2019, 04:17 PM
Location: Twin Cities
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I was referring to the NHL. There is no way they should have allowed the franchise to pack up and move out of MN. If you substituted say Jerry Jones for Norm Green for the scenario you laid out above, do you think the NFL and their owners would allow the Cowboys to move to a different state?
The NFL and every other sport has moved plenty of teams around for shaky reasons. The NFL moved the Cardinals and Rams, the NBA let the Lakers move to LA, MLB moved the Giants and the Dodgers, the NBA moved the Jazz to Utah. It happens all the time.
Here a story from the time.
Sports | North Star Owner Sued For Harassment | Seattle Times Newspaper
08-15-2019, 04:33 PM
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The sports business often seems like just a branch of the real estate business. So often teams move because they are unhappy with their facility and if they can't get the big shiny new facility they want, they move. The Chargers move back to LA was one recent example. It's almost like they're chasing the building more than the city.
Speaking of which, why did they need to build the XCel Energy Center for the Wild? What was wrong with using the Target Center? MSP has 4 major league sports teams who play in 4 different facilities! And they are all within, what?, 15 miles of each other or less?
Are they the only city that can say that? No wait.......NY also because MSG hosts the Rangers and the Knicks and the Barclays Center hosts the Islanders and Nets. But even NY has some shared use with the Giants and Jets both playing at MetLife Stadium.
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People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)