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Old 05-22-2023, 08:00 PM
 
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because everything on LI is named after Native American things.... from the towns, to the roads, to the school teams.... No one cared for 100s of years, why start now?

A WARRIOR, BRAVE is not upsetting to anyone......... Redmen, Indian ok maybe...
But in Sachem;s case... its litterally an ARROW HEAD!

its about state govt overreach as well. local schools boards should have local control
I think the town names are safe, just my opinion
But thanks for explaining your point of view
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Old 05-22-2023, 08:06 PM
 
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I think the town names are safe, just my opinion
But thanks for explaining your point of view
Literally most town names are native names...... Massapequa, Hauppauge, Patchogue, Montauk or school districts are named for natives. Connetquot, Sachem, Comsewogue

Why shouldnt these districts be allowed to use a native "mascot" for lack of a better term.?

In Sachems case... an arrow head is offensive to who??? the deer and turkeys they killed to eat?

In Connetquots case - Thunderbird???? offsensive to who?
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Old 05-22-2023, 08:16 PM
 
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Literally most town names are native names...... Massapequa, Hauppauge, Patchogue, Montauk or school districts are named for natives. Connetquot, Sachem, Comsewogue

Why shouldnt these districts be allowed to use a native "mascot" for lack of a better term.?

In Sachems case... an arrow head is offensive to who??? the deer and turkeys they killed to eat?

In Connetquots case - Thunderbird???? offsensive to who?
I can see both sides of the fence here.
Me personally, this is what I see in my mind when I hear the word mascot:

It can come off as a mockery
The town names are safe because they pay homage to who was there first
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Old 05-22-2023, 08:29 PM
 
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I can see both sides of the fence here.
Me personally, this is what I see in my mind when I hear the word mascot:

It can come off as a mockery
The town names are safe because they pay homage to who was there first
Well thats a bull.. so only only cows and bulls should be offended.

FYI Chicago itself is a Native name...

Whats offensive on this for Sachem (which literally means CHIEF)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=...AAAAAdAAAAABAI

Connetquot

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=...AAAAAdAAAAABAE
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Old 05-22-2023, 09:44 PM
 
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Well thats a bull.. so only only cows and bulls should be offended.

FYI Chicago itself is a Native name...

Whats offensive on this for Sachem (which literally means CHIEF)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=...AAAAAdAAAAABAI

Connetquot

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=...AAAAAdAAAAABAE
Not the fact that its a bull, mascots wear costumes and stuff

Are any Native Americans appearing as mascots at home games on LI? If not, then who's getting in the costume? It can come off as a mockery.
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Old 05-23-2023, 04:20 AM
 
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I can see both sides of the fence here.
Me personally, this is what I see in my mind when I hear the word mascot:

It can come off as a mockery
The town names are safe because they pay homage to who was there first
It is kinda funny that the Regents are scrupulously avoiding the fact the school district names (Sachem, Syosset, etc.) are Native American words. It’s actually quite logical for those districts to have Native American nicknames/imagery. In both cases paying homage to those who were here first.

And nothing is safe nowadays. I see them coming after school district names. (School districts and towns are distinct entities here on LI).
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Old 05-23-2023, 06:08 AM
 
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It is kinda funny that the Regents are scrupulously avoiding the fact the school district names (Sachem, Syosset, etc.) are Native American words. It’s actually quite logical for those districts to have Native American nicknames/imagery. In both cases paying homage to those who were here first.

And nothing is safe nowadays. I see them coming after school district names. (School districts and towns are distinct entities here on LI).
I'm not sure about that, but the Mohonasen SD outside of Schenectady is a district gets its name from pieces of the Mohawk, Onondaga and Seneca. The Board of Regents stated that districts with Native American based names can stay and it is all about the mascot/nickname that schools use. Here is an article about that: https://www.timesunion.com/news/arti...n-17648766.php

So, school district names aren't on the table. I don't see that coming especially for districts named after a town/hamlet/village/city with a Native name, like Massapequa, Wyandanch(who is an example of a district that tried to negotiate with a Native group to keep their nickname but with ), Manhasset, etc.
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Old 05-23-2023, 07:40 AM
 
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Just another step on the woke ladder!

How can a Thunderbird be considered insulting? Lol. It’s just Bs all around.
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Old 05-23-2023, 08:09 AM
 
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Just another step on the woke ladder!

How can a Thunderbird be considered insulting? Lol. It’s just Bs all around.
Again, do not underestimate the input of Native Americans on this topic. I think this is getting overlooked, but I think there is more to this, in terms of this not having political implications.
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Old 05-23-2023, 08:58 AM
 
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Just another step on the woke ladder!

How can a Thunderbird be considered insulting? Lol. It’s just Bs all around.
Because the uniform companies need new business. I hope all these districts buy new uniforms and such from online companies that aren’t based in NY.
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